Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of speech (2020)

Post by TimPC » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 6:17 PM UTC

hirsin wrote: post #230

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While I agree-ish, I can list a litany of people deplatformed. All of them are on the right. It could just be only the left has power at the moment. A common question is why the Ayatollah is on Twitter (and I think Facebook) calling for death, but Alex Jones isn’t allowed to question events. We can argue both are reprehensible, but only one is banned. Beyond that I haven’t seen anyone on the right truly call for limi…

Book banning is the right's equivalent of deplatforming, with the bonus that they are getting the government to do it, not just a private company. They do take it further though, with banning of talking about how to get an abortion, banning of talking about LGBT topics in school. I can't say that allowing those topics, or even pushing them, is targeting the right. By definition it's about some other group being suppo…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 6:17 PM UTC

rmatt2000 wrote: post #109

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I have not heard any group calling for free speech to be blocked. Who is calling for people to be arrested for what they say? Or to be blocked from being able to say it out loud? I think what you mean is that people are calling for internet platforms to kick out certain groups. This is in no way a call against freedom of speech. I am not sure why people suddenly believe that being for 'free speech' means that other p…

You should spend some time on a college campus. Shouting down speakers and deplatforming non-progressives is more common than one might think.

Post by hotpotamus » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 6:18 PM UTC

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Then build a town square that is publicly owned, we as society decided to wave our hands of the responsibility of making a publicly owned the internet for the convenience of allowing big tech do it for us. The solution is not force private companies to host speech. It either create a publicly owned town square on the internet or collectively stop valuing/using these platforms so much.

> It either create a publicly owned town square on the internet or collectively stop valuing/using these platforms so much. Great. How do you intend to accomplish this, practically speaking?

Post by sejje » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 6:18 PM UTC

weberer wrote: post #236

idlewords wrote: post #67

It's worth digging into the methodology here: the study participants were found through Mechanical Turk, and the proxy for cognitive ability is a vocabulary quiz. You can just as well use this study to show that the kind of highly educated people whose circumstances are dire enough they have to work for pennies an hour have been socialized into giving correct answers about questions pertaining to freedom of speech.

>It's worth digging into the methodology here: the study participants were found through Mechanical Turk That seems to be most studies these days. And 10 years ago it was mostly "we've recruited 200 students from [university performing the study]" and people complained about that too. And if you do a phone survey, then its "you're biasing toward the people who pick up calls from unknown numbers". There's always going…

Post by jscipione » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 6:20 PM UTC

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #33

Is Freedom of Speech important for a democratic society to survive? Right wing extremists would say yes. In fact, this is why they believe we shouldn't allow low cognitive ability immigrants into the country or let them vote.