Cognitive ability is related to supporting freedom of speech (2020)

Post by gruez » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 5:09 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #105

Dig1t wrote: post #55

I grew up in the US being told that freedom of speech was a virtue, something that our country did very well and I always thought that it was a shared value. It's very surprising to me to see that change in such a short span, or possibly it was not as popular or widespread as I thought it was growing up and I just never noticed. Is it the internet that has caused this uptick in the number of people who think free spe…

I have not heard any group calling for free speech to be blocked. Who is calling for people to be arrested for what they say? Or to be blocked from being able to say it out loud? I think what you mean is that people are calling for internet platforms to kick out certain groups. This is in no way a call against freedom of speech. I am not sure why people suddenly believe that being for 'free speech' means that other p…

Post by faeriechangling » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 5:09 PM UTC

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #42

faeriechangling wrote: post #5

Makes perfect sense to me. The free exchange of information is more appealing and less threatening when you have more information processing capability to begin with.

> The free exchange of information is more appealing and less threatening when you have more information processing capability to begin with. I struggle to get this. "Dumb" people feel threatened when others can freely express themselves?

Post by naasking » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 5:10 PM UTC

marcopolo3333 wrote: post #98

naasking wrote: post #90

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> Forcing private entities to host speech they don't want to goes against what I define as freedom of speech. What if a private entity owns the town square?

Then build a town square that is publicly owned, we as society decided to wave our hands of the responsibility of making a publicly owned the internet for the convenience of allowing big tech do it for us. The solution is not force private companies to host speech. It either create a publicly owned town square on the internet or collectively stop valuing/using these platforms so much.

Post by citizenkeen » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 5:10 PM UTC

rmatt2000 wrote: post #109

cortesoft wrote: post #105

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I have not heard any group calling for free speech to be blocked. Who is calling for people to be arrested for what they say? Or to be blocked from being able to say it out loud? I think what you mean is that people are calling for internet platforms to kick out certain groups. This is in no way a call against freedom of speech. I am not sure why people suddenly believe that being for 'free speech' means that other p…

You should spend some time on a college campus. Shouting down speakers and deplatforming non-progressives is more common than one might think.

Post by 8ytecoder » Sat, Sep 10, 2022, 5:10 PM UTC

faeriechangling wrote: post #92

8ytecoder wrote: post #24

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I think Free speech, Freedom from prosecution for speech and speech without any consequences are all confused with each other. To me, the freedoms to oppose some speech, by way of boycotting, protesting, shunning and shaming is also speech. There’s also the difference between beheading for speech and getting your Twitter account suspended. If someone says absolutely nutty stuff in a town square and the local folks dr…

There is a semantic dispute over how free speech should be defined which is wrapped up in your views of the subject to begin with, but in my view the most consistent way to define the topic is that free speech is "the notion that people should speak freely without fear of social sanction". When I think of somebody who supports free speech, I think of somebody who: - Speaks in a less filtered way - Brushes off people…