why on earth is no one one the side of the bank here? apple is using a backdoor into their hardware to cut people off from their funds. This is a gairly serious security breach and the bank is asvising customers to mitigate it.
Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16
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Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16
#192What I find really amazing is that we have here an incredibly elite service that the vast majority of people will never be able to afford, and yet its elite clients are dependent on essentially the same mobile devices that everyone else is. You can spend ~$2k on a phone, and it will be the best phone you can buy. There's no $20k phone that will be any better. It's like flying in first class and then having to queue u…
It's not going to be any better, but if you'd like to spend $20k on a phone, Vertu still seems to be around peddling crocodile skin phones encrusted with diamonds etc.
https://www.vertu.com/collections/aster-p
The gullwing titanium SIM card slots are straight out of Silicon Valley. There's even a Gavin Belson-worthy signature!
https://www.vertu.com/products/aster-p-ti-black-rococo-himal...
And tying neatly back to the original article, it seems these things are running a 2017-vintage fork of Android 8.1 called "Luxury OS".
Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16
#193This is one of the most exclusive banks in the world, counting the British Royal Family among their notable clients, and they can't even be bothered to keep their mobile app up to date. Pretty much sums up what rich people think about technology: make it sexy and powerful but I don't want to hear about ongoing maintenance costs. According to Wikipedia, new clients needed £500k in disposable funds to set up an account…
What unique services does a bank like this offer it’s clients?
Lack of scalability. It’s a person checking your transactions for possible fraud, not just an algorithm.
Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16
#194This is one of the most exclusive banks in the world, counting the British Royal Family among their notable clients, and they can't even be bothered to keep their mobile app up to date. Pretty much sums up what rich people think about technology: make it sexy and powerful but I don't want to hear about ongoing maintenance costs. According to Wikipedia, new clients needed £500k in disposable funds to set up an account…
What unique services does a bank like this offer it’s clients?
You pay for service, for, service, flexibility, and and advice.
Service= a dedicated banker with whom you can call directly with issues/problems
Flexibility= Custom solutions / humans in the loop decisions. E.g. I know someone who was able to procure a 90 day bridge loan implying dizzying leverage as he was buying a business and buying + selling a primary residence because he was able to sit down with someone, walk through the merits with a human underwriter.
Advice= Conduit of multitudes of expert opinions around insurance, tax, estate planning etc.
Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16
#195Their security department must be up in arms. Making sure your software is updated is a pinnacle in security - you simply do not turn of updating of your devices - I know this is a little bit simplistic but it isn't as if the BETA hasn't been available for iOS 16 for ages. Instead of disabling your updates, you should change your bank. Don't let them get away with it.
Security departments are generally so unhelpful that most organisations quickly learn to ignore them beyond the box ticking exercises.
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#196Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple releases an update once a year and they give several months of betas where app devs can test and prepare. That’s more than enough for supported apps.
Still pretty embarrassing when Microsoft maintains backwards compatibility for decades.
This is why I don’t like developing on Windows, everything has 10 layers of complexity. To write a script for something that should be a simple task, I need to either reengineer the exact environment settings used in the UI or write an additional script to find the correct executable (with all the overhead of running the executable) to recreate the state needed to run a single command.
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#198Fun coincidence. We are telling our customers (the banks themselves) the same thing for our B2B product.
We are going back to a web app for everything. Native is a joke if you care about stability over time. We sign contracts that are 5 years long. That’s 5 major apple/google/etc product cycles. We needed a different strategy for our tiny company.
There’s not really much you can’t do in iOS Safari in 2022. I’ve even got some customers pushing PWAs over Azure Intune to iPads without any problems. No codesign or apple developer program in sight. Life feels much better this way.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
They've had 3 months to test the new iOS software. That's the whole purpose of WWDC in June and new OS coming out in September
oh really? Three whole months? Shame on them /s
Why the /s? Three months is a _very_ long time in software. This isn’t retooling physical metal for a new car model year; it’s minor software tweaks at best. Most developers don’t actually need to do anything.
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#200This is the difference between Microsoft and Apple. Where Microsoft goes through great lengths to keep new versions of OSes compatible with previous ones, Apple just lets users and developers sort it out.
This honestly just isn't as true as it used to be. Microsoft is happy to break and deprecate stuff nowadays in all of its platforms, it's just been slower to do so on Windows, but even Windows is losing its immunity. Remember it was only a few months back everyone was up in arms that their relatively modern computers wouldn't be supported by Windows 11 without purchasing hardware. The Azure/MS365 platform sunsets APIs all the time or makes back-end changes to their APIs used by applications without even so much as a warning, and applications using those APIs have to rush out patches around these changes.
Yes, it's impressive that some old applications can run just fine on a modern Windows box, but it's not really something they've been pushing for long time. If Microsoft had their ideal world, you wouldn't be developing applications for Windows, you'd be building something backed by a series of Azure Services and all your apps would just be light clients talking to an endpoint on Azure.