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Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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> figure on the website now is £1M OP’s point still stands. That’s middle of ground for a private bank. Far from “most exclusive.”

I don't think this is the sort of bank where you can just show up with 1m and the staff will bend over backwards to open your account. For instance, if the Royal family banks there it means they think the bank will never ever make headlines for the wrong reasons or at all.

Right, because the Royal Family themselves never ever make headlines for the wrong reasons.

Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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post #95

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> figure on the website now is £1M OP’s point still stands. That’s middle of ground for a private bank. Far from “most exclusive.”

In practice, if you’re over 40, the limit is closer to $5-10m USD at anywhere good, but the idea of banks being “exclusive” is sort of out of date. Anyone will take your cash if there’s enough of it.

Proof of stake before it was cool.

Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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So it seems that you have never worked in a real company, where it can't easily be done to make a major technical rework of some components in a 3 months timeframe. With debugging, conception of a fix, implementation and testing, it is not often possible. Teams are also not standing by to be available anytime for such works, often those apps are being worked on with contractors.

Most companies (and banks) seem to manage alright, without their apps breaking, or their customers being given inane advice. Or is this not your experience?

Banking apps have always been the bottom of the barrel to me, with many (non critical) bugs taking months to get fixed. Gov. apps and utilities app come second and third from the bottom.

My personal experience is, many mammoth companies are not managing that alright.

Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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Everyone is jumping on the bank for not staying up to date with the frequent and massive chanages that Apple makes. But this is only a news story because it is a bank, this scenario happens constantly to a large fraction of all iOS software. The problem here is that modern libs and standards change so fast (similar to JS) that it really is hard for anyone without a megacorp's worth of software dev employees to keep u…

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Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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This is one of the most exclusive banks in the world, counting the British Royal Family among their notable clients, and they can't even be bothered to keep their mobile app up to date. Pretty much sums up what rich people think about technology: make it sexy and powerful but I don't want to hear about ongoing maintenance costs. According to Wikipedia, new clients needed £500k in disposable funds to set up an account…

That’s quite a jump there. One bank is bad at maintaining their app all the way to a blanket statement about rich people and technology.

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Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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Everyone is jumping on the bank for not staying up to date with the frequent and massive chanages that Apple makes. But this is only a news story because it is a bank, this scenario happens constantly to a large fraction of all iOS software. The problem here is that modern libs and standards change so fast (similar to JS) that it really is hard for anyone without a megacorp's worth of software dev employees to keep u…

It's hard to really make a judgement one way or the other without knowing the technical and organisational reasons in the first place. Maybe their iOS dev left a few months ago and there are large changes needed they haven't been able to pull off in time? Maybe there's a very specific issue/bug they're having trouble to work around? Maybe they actually did make an update but it got rejected in the (in)famous "Apple a…

Whether or not a company can get apps updated in a reasonable window - or whether a bank having “an iOS dev” is reasonable, or not, it is simply unforgivable to suggest that people turn off operating system upgrades.

Re: Bank tells customers to disable updates and not upgrade to iOS 16

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it seems that you have never worked in a real company, where it can't easily be done to make a major technical rework of some components in a 3 months timeframe. With debugging, conception of a fix, implementation and testing, it is not often possible. Teams are also not standing by to be available anytime for such works, often those apps are being worked on with contractors.

It's fairly reasonable to assume a new major iOS version will come out around September or October every year, with multiple betas before the final release.

The question is more what to do when you find a major issue from let’s say the third or fourth beta, and your dev company tells you refactoring is needed and it will take 3 months to ship.

I feel most people’s opinion in this thread stops at “just don’t be in that situation”

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