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Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#201

Can we go back to the chapter on YouTube where we had downvotes so we can tell whether or not a video is going to be high quality and informative or not?

This is corporate greed at work. A tiny minority of users know the importance and value of a symmetrical voting system.

Most users dont care. So Google removes it because its good for business, not for the user.

Massively downvoted videos are bad press.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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post #129

Yeah, I don't need details and we don't need this. The real issue is, the world loves and perhaps needs "universal video hosting," something like "the open web" but for video. Right now, "Youtube" is that. And they're not a completely awful steward of it, but we need better. The for-profit model is not ideal.

how can it be free and not for profit at large scale?

Taxes.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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post #146

I’m hopeful that this will be a good thing for high-quality educational content. Udemy, as an alternative, is largely poor quality content scams that have fake reviews and outrageous prices (so that the seemingly constant “sales” encourage you to purchase). If YouTube can improve on this experience even a little bit then it’s a success in my eyes.

Courses on popular IT technologies are good. React, Angular, Web development, App development, etc. Especially by the likes of Stephen Girder or Maximilian.

However, the niche areas (engineering, CAD, Math, etc) have been taken over by regular shitty offline tution centers (there are hundreds of thousands of such in India at least). They create crappy content and review bomb.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#205

This feels like forced innovation. Why not build a new product, that actually does what they want to do? And use the YT infrastructure? Why does Google have to shoehorn everything into YT? It is important to note that having your videos on a platform like Udemy or the likes is orders of magnitude better than on youtube. The clickbaity titles are a drag on cognition in YT. Has anyone noticed how the YT recommendation…

The brand name brings in some default level of adoption I'm sure.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#206

> Every day, people come to YouTube to learn something new. True. > shows content on commonly used education apps without distractions like ads, external links or recommendations External links seem important on educational files, and I kind of like recommendations when I'm browsing educational stuff, but whoo, no ads on educational stuff? That's great! > Next year, qualified creators can begin offering free or paid…

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Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#207

I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…

Honestly, if your content is good, all the more you should put some effort on your thumbnails. Don't feel bad about it.

To me it's like spending your lifetime writing an amazing book, only to spend a few minutes on designing the cover. It could be an amazing video/book. But how would I as the customer know?

I (and probably many other people) are constantly searching for good videos to watch. And unlike books, it's so easy to take a peek on a video and decide to close it within seconds if it's not something that is interesting to me.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#208

This feels like forced innovation. Why not build a new product, that actually does what they want to do? And use the YT infrastructure? Why does Google have to shoehorn everything into YT? It is important to note that having your videos on a platform like Udemy or the likes is orders of magnitude better than on youtube. The clickbaity titles are a drag on cognition in YT. Has anyone noticed how the YT recommendation…

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Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#209
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of a saying I've heard from Dean Graziosi (sales type guy). "Sell them what they want, give them what they need". I also dislike this whole game where you have to essentially mould yourself into this "mainstream click-baity character", but part of me recognises that if your goal is to sell, then you'd be wise to spend time on presenting your content in a way that is at least initially attention grabbi…

> but part of me recognises that if your goal is to sell , then you'd be wise to spend time on presenting your content in a way that is at least initially attention grabbing. The issue is, I think, exactly that everyone must be at least partially a salesman to get ahead. Is this what we want? Is there a way for YouTube to compensate for clickbaity titles and thumbnails? Are they incentivized to do so? Thinking back a…

Most classroom teachers in the U.S. don’t need to sell because they are either employed at public schools (attendance is compulsory), or at private schools (selling is handled by the school administration).

In the long run, online learning will probably become dominated by the equivalent of private schools: companies that hire great teachers and, separately, great marketers to build audiences.

Or look it at this way: Nonprofit authors don’t generally design their own book covers. They work with a publisher who does that. Why should teachers try to design their own YouTube thumbnails?

(On the flip side, if you highly value your independence as a sole proprietor, then yeah, expect that you’ll have to put on the marketing hat sometimes).

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