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The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

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Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#122
This announcement just confuses things. Is it just to warn edtech companies that Google is muscling its way in?

The business model is unclear. There are no ads, so any income comes from more direct revenue sharing or user fees? If the teaching site embeds the video, what does google get?

The technical model is unclear. This is only to watch embedded in a frame on the creator site, and not on youtube? Yet, google wants to control the community tab and do quizzes? It sounds like Google wants to own the entire interaction.

It's unclear how or when to get started, and who this is relevant for. Who is qualified? Who do you contact?

It violates the first rule of youtube: say it in seconds.

And it's written as if the author/director is himself a creator, complete with personal anecdote about his kids. Must we present ourselves as such even for business communications?

I suspect my expectations of google announcements are dated.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on what you want. Google is optimizing for eye balls so content that warrants more engagement is going to win. 2 questions on the end of the spectrum to ask yourself... Do you want to build a community that is a reflection of your ideas? Do you want to build revenue by growing your channel regardless of the type of consumer you attract?

> content that warrants more engagement is going to win What does that even mean? I'd be careful about using the language of silicon value ad companies. It changes how you think. One minute you're talking about content and community and the next thing you know you have metrics and are trying to measure engagement and are now making decisions based off something you could actually measure and not relying on your insti…

>Make it so good, your audience will want to support you.

You used the same type of voice you criticized, I'm confused why you're projecting this narrative onto my comment.

I'm obviously pointing out that clickbait content will get more engagement. I'm trying to make the OP ask themselves what they want... which I believe is very clear.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#124
If you're making educational content to be embedded into another site, you don't need YouTube. Because you are not using Google for video discovery. So put your video elsewhere. Vimeo, PeerTube, etc. Preferably multiple places.

Relying on Google to maintain a non ad supported product is very risky. Basing a business on it is suicidal. See the infamous list of dead Google services.[1]

[1] https://killedbygoogle.com/

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#125
post #23

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It bothers me that we still have those useless suffixes attached to domains. What does „org“, „com“, „net“ even mean to the average user? Nothing. It’s nothing but a pointless ritual at this point, and after ICANN chose to add thousands of generic domains, they don’t have any significance left at all, except that nice names are very expensive now. It would be easier for everybody if we simply removed that extra step…

Regional TLDs like .us .uk .fr .ru etc. do make sense though

Until they're useful for making a catchy address, like me.ga (which wasn't hosted in Gabon)

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#127
post #97

I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…

I'm a creator too. I'm small on YouTube (3,880 subs; 6.4k views and about 293 hours watched in the last 28 days), but have a (relatively speaking) large Discord with 3,800 members. I have a mailing list of about 1,600. My goal and focus is to sell, but it's to sell a big package around the idea of IT education. I want to sell to people who want the interaction and community, not just the knowledge dump. And I'm the s…

Hey 3880 subs is pretty good. I'm still on 241. haha. It actually takes a lot of effort to get past 1000 subs/5000 watch hours, which is the minimum for monetization.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#128

I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…

Could you share your channel? Always interested in educational music content.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#129
Yeah, I don't need details and we don't need this.

The real issue is, the world loves and perhaps needs "universal video hosting," something like "the open web" but for video. Right now, "Youtube" is that.

And they're not a completely awful steward of it, but we need better. The for-profit model is not ideal.

Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube

#130
post #99

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I don't understand YouTube's move to remove the downvote button - cyber bullying? What I will say though is it actually hasn't stopped me from being able to identify a bad video. If a "bad" video had 1,000 upvotes and (previously) had 10,000 downvotes, combined with a high view count and engage via the comments, just removing the downvotes still tells me everything I need to know: 1,000 upvotes on a high view count v…

We all know why they removed it, they were butthurt over their cringe rewinds consistently getting downvoted into oblivion. /s

I think it was less Youtube's ego and more the ego's of its advertiser and IP-hoarding-company patrons
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