To me it feels like youtube is trying to do some Udemy here.
The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
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#72I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…
Having good thumbnails and tiles is just marketing. If you want to sell or get the word out about what you are offering it helps to have a good marketing effort. Yes, creating the material is a lot of work, but that doesn't mean that marketing is something that doesn't need hard work.
The problem is it isn't "good" thumbnails. It's that stupid fucking, "who farted?" face. Or more often for young women, it's "Uh-oh, I did a bad thing" face.
I agree, race to the bottom of the brain stem. I sympathize with GP
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#73Can we go back to the chapter on YouTube where we had downvotes so we can tell whether or not a video is going to be high quality and informative or not?
FWIW there's an addon [1] that can help with this.
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#74> Every day, people come to YouTube to learn something new. True. > shows content on commonly used education apps without distractions like ads, external links or recommendations External links seem important on educational files, and I kind of like recommendations when I'm browsing educational stuff, but whoo, no ads on educational stuff? That's great! > Next year, qualified creators can begin offering free or paid…
The alternative isn’t these creators giving their content away; the alternative is these creators using one of the dozens of paid-video-course hosting platforms that have sprung up. This isn’t going to put a paywall in front of any content that didn’t already have a paywall in front of it.
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#76Maybe just me, but I'm not really excited for established YouTubers to sell more stuff and expand their empires. It's already a winner-take-all game of attention. The beauty of YouTube is finding like a retired professor who puts up their lectures on an account with a couple thousand subscribers. It is not having a click-bait worthy thumbnail, over-produced video, and barely learning anything while being mindlessly e…
They might (do that kind of killing), but I'd also like to think that good educators are a segment that will be wary and savvy enough to steer clear of something that doesn't support the learning that they want to foster, so other learning platforms will endure. Basically I don't think that selling education works like selling ads. But I'm not objective (being an educator).
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#77> Every day, people come to YouTube to learn something new. True. > shows content on commonly used education apps without distractions like ads, external links or recommendations External links seem important on educational files, and I kind of like recommendations when I'm browsing educational stuff, but whoo, no ads on educational stuff? That's great! > Next year, qualified creators can begin offering free or paid…
By no external links or recommendations, I think they're talking about the links to other videos they show after the video being currently watched has finished because they are talking about the embedded YouTube player
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#78YouTube killed learning on their platform, when they killed the downvote. They removed the one metric that people had to signal that content is crap. So now people have to trust that "the algorithm" is filtering out all the junk. Which of course we know doesn't happen. The algorithm only cares about engagement, it doesn't care if the content is of good quality or even truthful.
> content is crap But that would be just someone’s personal opinion (or worse). Why should I care? Besides, people discuss things on forums, and a more detailed review is more useful than a simple vote. Finally, it is often not that hard to see whether the presentation or the content is worth your while from the first few minutes of watching it. (There are, of course, some cases when watching is made difficult becaus…
Is this a serious comment? Your comment here is so obviously misguided that it borders on comedy. If you're serious, I can give a serious reply.
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#79> Every day, people come to YouTube to learn something new. True. > shows content on commonly used education apps without distractions like ads, external links or recommendations External links seem important on educational files, and I kind of like recommendations when I'm browsing educational stuff, but whoo, no ads on educational stuff? That's great! > Next year, qualified creators can begin offering free or paid…
Many creators of educational content on Youtube already have paid content alongside their free. Except, the paid is currently hosted on other platforms like Udemy and Patreon. As long it's not an exclusive deal which forces them to only use YouTube, I don't really see that many problems with it. In the end, it will likely draw in more creators, which translates to more educational content, both free and paid, and hopefully better, as competition grows.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to play Devil's Advocate (and I can't believe that I'm arguing for YouTube here): Why shouldn't they charge for a useful service? And it does sound like they're removing other major problems with using their platform for this purpose.
Problem: Creators want to be paid more for their content (great content, good content, bad content, etc) Solution proposed by Google: Lets charge customers who view this content so that we can pay creators more without losing revenue. Solution proposed by Consumers: Lets give creators a larger share of youtube's profits. We're already paying for the service by offering our data, our youtube premium subscriptions, and…
> having billions of pounds of guacamole.
We've determined by our standards that you have too much guacamole. But, we refuse to see the hypocrisy of this hand-wavy standard that we've got way too much guacamole ourselves compared to another arbitrary entity. We also think, based on our own subjective assessment that guacomole is bad for you and you must reduce consumption. Correct strategy according to our experts is that we need to coerce those who have too much guacomole (again based on our subjective assessment) must give it to those who we think do not have enough. It is morally approved by insert-current-virtue-thing.
Subjectivism has taken over objectivism.