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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by jasec57322 »

LegitShady wrote: post #191
jasec57322 wrote: post #127

I'm currently using a 6 year old phone. Now that I don't take many photos and use it lightly - it actually performs far better than the previous 3 new phones I had - 2 of which were flagships. The S22 I sent back had worse battery-life than my current phone - it was doing heavy background-work, despite having all the battery-optimal settings enabled. To the point: New phones are way too big, too power-hungry, the new…

I prefer phones that are still getting security updates. You talked up your phone a lot but omitted what model it is, for some reason.

It's a oneplus 2.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by whatarethembits »

IAmLiterallyAB wrote: post #197

This is the first phone running a Google chipset, and Google CPU. And a Google modem I believe. Their previous phones were Qualcomm based. I imagine a lot of the issues people are seeing are related to that, a mix of hardware flaws and driver bugs.

Isn’t the “Google CPU” just rebranded Exynos? In which is case it’s almost always worse than same generation Qualcomm in performance. One of the reasons why I couldn’t stomach purchasing a Samsung phone here in Europe was that their Exynos processor was worse across the board than what the North American benchmarks on YouTube would have you believe.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by SirZimzim »

ssizn wrote: post #68
dekerta wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a Pixel6 in July. Aside from the camera, it is by far the worst phone I've ever owned. I probably experience at least 4 or 5 major crashes every day where the phone becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. Up until now, I've been able to live with the bugs as a moderate inconvenience, but now that I know I could potentially die because of Google's complete lack of QA, I'm going to ditch the phone right away. I'l…

I don’t understand how could you pay such a vast amount of money for a phone that is not even subpar… it is unusable by your own testimony. Not trying to be snarky or anything, but why didn’t you return it?

You only get 15 days to return it and a lot of us wait until the next patch to see if that fixes issues which are on a monthly cadence now. Unfortunately after buying so many Google devices unless some major changes happen I won't be buying another one.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #335
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #317

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Google has the leverage to fix this if they wanted to. Samsung is also leaving a competitive advantage on the table by not doing this with Exynos. And the planned obsolescence is pointless. Even if you could run the latest Linux kernel on a phone you bought ten years ago, a phone from that year might have a 3G radio and less than a GB of memory. Which can still make phone calls, or be used in place of a Raspberry Pi,…

>Google has the leverage to fix this if they wanted to. How? >Samsung is also leaving a competitive advantage on the table by not doing this with Exynos. How is Samsung different than the rest? They also make their money from selling as much hardware as possible as often as possible. They don't have a way to monetize users post-sale through subscriptions, services and AppStore cuts. All that infrastructure is owned b…

> How?

In general the same way they get ~every Android phone to ship with Google Play.

The most aggressive way would be to design their own chips like Apple does and put the drivers in the kernel tree, make the chips available to other phone makers and then require satisfactory open source drivers from everyone as a condition of using Google services. Qualcomm publishes the drivers or loses all their hardware customers to Google's chips.

> How is Samsung different than the rest?

Qualcomm has been a near monopoly. The next phone you buy will likely be one of theirs even if you're dissatisfied with the existing one, so they can screw you and still get your business.

Samsung is the underdog here, and hardware brand loyalty is weak. If they could sell more phones by giving the people what they want, their overall sales go up even if people keep them longer, because the latter is more at the expense of their competitors.

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Post by nokya »

aaaaaaaaata wrote: post #178
dilyevsky wrote: post #45

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It’s hilarious that internally googlers always used to poo poo vendors in private conversations but imo you’re absolutely right - samsung essentially holds the whole brand afloat. Although not by choice - they tried replacing android and failed miserably

Which is embarrassing, because they're one of the most insecure vendors...

"one of the most insecure vendors"

The way you wrote it makes it sound like most vendors sell secure software but not Samsung, which isn't true at all: all vendors sell insecure software except very few exceptions.

The fact that Samsung cannot build secure software doesn't mean they're bad at it. It means they're not better than the others, which is very different from calling then the most insecure software company.

Application security in information security is what climate change is in politics: an underdog, strongly opposed, and massively misunderstood. The simple fact that you are aware that Samsung produces code, which contains many security vulnerabilities, is an indicator that it is probably doing much better than a lot of other companies ;)

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by IAmLiterallyAB »

whatarethembits wrote: post #352
IAmLiterallyAB wrote: post #197

This is the first phone running a Google chipset, and Google CPU. And a Google modem I believe. Their previous phones were Qualcomm based. I imagine a lot of the issues people are seeing are related to that, a mix of hardware flaws and driver bugs.

Isn’t the “Google CPU” just rebranded Exynos? In which is case it’s almost always worse than same generation Qualcomm in performance. One of the reasons why I couldn’t stomach purchasing a Samsung phone here in Europe was that their Exynos processor was worse across the board than what the North American benchmarks on YouTube would have you believe.

Oh is it? I'll have to look into that

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by pvillano »

lawn wrote: post #273
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #27

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So where do we go from here? I have a Samsung Galaxy S9 at the moment, but Samsung's typo-filled changelogs don't exactly inspire confidence. It has also been bugging me to accept the new Samsung Account terms, which I don't want to do. Chinese brands (Huawei, Xiaomi, Motorola, etc.) don't inspire confidence for me either. Apple had the CSAM scanning controversy. I have an iPad, but a bunch of features I didn't want…

The Fairphone 4 is great IMO. Repairability is super high, it's easily flashed to eg LineagOS and has been promised software updates for many years if you want to stay with Android.

yeah, but not if you're in the US

> Currently, we only sell and ship Fairphone products to countries within the EEA and to Switzerland, the UK, Norway and Croatia.

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