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Zig is not mentioned until the section "Programming languages" (including not being mentioned in the original title): please fix the title so as not to put too much focus on that.
Zig is the new HN clickbait, taking over Rust's spot. That's a good sign for the language, honestly
Asking as Rustecean.
Zig is not mentioned until the section "Programming languages" (including not being mentioned in the original title): please fix the title so as not to put too much focus on that.
Zig is the new HN clickbait, taking over Rust's spot. That's a good sign for the language, honestly
I totally get it's nicer than C, I love it too, but it's completely irresponsible to push a language without a memory safety story, in 2022, this hard.
From that relatively obvious conclusion it devolves into tedious nerdsnipes. Yes there are edge cases.
From the perspective that development time is a big constraint in a game jam it's no wonder zig is more popular than rust
Arguably Zig is a better fit for game dev. At the high end game dev is all about memory layouts and cache optimization, and that goal can run counter to Rust's approach to memory safety.
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For me Rust is a language that I would absolutely love to work with in a professional context. The type system and borrow checker have your back and help you make changes to the code without fear of accidentally introducing any regressions. For private lone-hacking projects though it feels way too complex and opinionated. Here Zig definitely gets closer to what I need, though sadly it made unused variables an compile…
That's the one thing keeping me from considering Zig for new projects right now. If some enterprising young developer is reading this and wants to make a name for themselves, you should fork the Zig compiler and change those errors to warnings. It would be an extremely popular project. EDIT: I'll even give you a catchy project name. Wig: Zig with Warnings
26 or so data points, but still interesting. I myself have become enamored with Zig's relative simplcity and straightforwardness, although some of my friends keep telling me to do Rust instead.
Yeah, not a lot of data points, and a niche subject, game dev, but I am playing with the Mach game and graphics engine, and so far so good. I started programming in 1978 in CPM Basic, C, 6502 assembler, etc. I play with Rust, but if I am really looking for high-integrity software, I am currently using SPARK2014 (the subset of Ada), that has some legs beneath it. Rust and AdaCore are starting to work together to bring…
[1]: https://docs.adacore.com/spark2014-docs/html/ug/en/source/la...
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>it's not like commenting out variables is difficult. But if you comment var A that uses var B now B is unused and you need to commnet B, but now B was using a function parameter C and this param is unused now so you need to update the function signature (I do not use Go,Zig so maybe they did not forced you to also use all the function params my experience is with linters where ehwn you comment something then more un…
Wow sounds like you really need to clean up your codebase. Seriously, I have never had this problem while coding in Go, and I'm a very very sloppy coder.
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Zig is the new HN clickbait, taking over Rust's spot. That's a good sign for the language, honestly
How long till we start complaining that Zig followers are cult like? Asking as Rustecean.
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You could be a gen Zig developer. How cool is that. Yep, start cleaning up complexity mess that js ecosystem is expanding.
And make your completely new mess. I doubt JS will stop being primary language in browsers in my lifetime.
Javascript "mess" in browsers could be reduced by dividing into two parts. DOM stuff, and pure language stuff. The first part can stay as is. Probably wrapped into thin API for new lang interop. The second part is a completely new lang that compile to wasm (ideal if vice-versa) so that backend could also send wasm to browser and be able to interact with DOM too.
Next, backend js "mess" can be stopped because we have a better way for other languages to develop for the web.
It would be awesome to understand the reasons zig was utilized. My guess is that it is about the language tooling, but it would be nice to hear from the authors themselves.
I really enjoy the balance of safety and control in Zig. I can build using Debug mode during development, turning nearly all my bugs into crashes which are easily fixable using in-browser source-level debugging. But in Release-Small mode the result is fast and more importantly really small since there's a 64kb cartridge limit.
Another factor is the Zig Standard Library which designed to be portable and usable on freestanding targets. I can not emphasize enough how pleasant this is. For example I can just use a `std.heap.FixedBufferAllocator` to back a `std.ArrayList` with no problem.
The comptime feature of Zig also comes in handy when you have to minimize code size.
The seamless C interop furthermore improves my productivity since I can just use any C code I like. I've used a C perlin noise library in a previous game for example, saving me a lot of time.
Plus I've used Zig for the previous WASM-4 jam and just liked it so I didn't bother trying any other language.