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ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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My filterable gallery of split keyboards is here, should anyone want a quick overview of the range of keyboards that are available. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/

Just a heads-up, missing a few; https://golem.hu/boards/ seems to be a bit more complete.

This is nice but the aspect ratio is skewed on a lot of the photos that I looked. Again just a heads-up.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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While not a split, two-piece keyboard, I opted for the Kinesis Advantage 2 keyboard. It has the cupped wells that follow your finger lengths in 2 axes, and you don't have to fuss with two pieces, tenting, and adjustments. I can put it in my lap and it still works as well as at my desk. It is a bit big, but not as much as the photos I first viewed before buying it, and it is very light. The firmware is on the keyboard…

Yep, I've been using the Kinesis Advantage for two decades and it's still the best one out there IMO.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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And once again, no ISO layout option available :( While I can understand that US companies address the US market first, why are they ignoring large markets of the rest of the world, which are larger than the US?

I'm not even sure what an ISO layout would even mean here? This keyboard is otholinear, and already deviates fairly meaningfully from the normal US layout. It is mising 5 keys from the core typing area, and only adds back 3 of them in the extra row with arrow keys. So you already need to utilize the extra new buttons for some of this, in addition to space bar, modifier keys, layer/mode control keys, etc.

People who buy these types of keyboards often create very customized layouts to handle things like convenient macros, buttons not physcially included on the keyboard etc. ISO users could do the same. For example, moving shift buttons down to the thumb area gives you a place for the extra ISO key in that row. The missing extra key from in the home row could be moved to say the key between return and backspace. Or return could be remapped entirely, or whatever.

It is really very unclear to me what an ISO variation of this would even be.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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For anyone else reading this thread- FWIW I bought a Moonlander a few months ago and I haven't been able to switch to it. It's missing just enough keys that I haven't been able to figure out a layout that seems good enough to stick with long enough to get used to it, and so when I use it it's still painfully slow. There are some extra keys, but some of them seem hard to use well (the big red triangle keys at the top…

Have you tried using the extra 2 layers? Multiplies the number of keys. Also, print your layout while you learn it to remember where things are.

yeah I have to figure out how to use the extra layers better, and then use it enough to get used to them I think. Printing out is a good tip, thanks.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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Just a heads-up, missing a few; https://golem.hu/boards/ seems to be a bit more complete.

I would love to see a split or ergonomic board with electrocapacitive rubber dome switches. I can't go back to the way mechanical feels, but would appreciate some ergonomics.

Not sure I understand correctly. Are you referring to membrane keyboards (rubber dome keyboards)? Why do you prefer these over mechanical keyboards?

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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My filterable gallery of split keyboards is here, should anyone want a quick overview of the range of keyboards that are available. https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/

I've wanted to get a mechanical keyboard for a long time but I haven't because pages like this are completely overwhelming for me.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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And once again, no ISO layout option available :( While I can understand that US companies address the US market first, why are they ignoring large markets of the rest of the world, which are larger than the US?

I'm not even sure what an ISO layout would even mean here? This keyboard is otholinear, and already deviates fairly meaningfully from the normal US layout. It is mising 5 keys from the core typing area, and only adds back 3 of them in the extra row with arrow keys. So you already need to utilize the extra new buttons for some of this, in addition to space bar, modifier keys, layer/mode control keys, etc. People who b…

The left hand on a split keyboard has 6 keys in the bottom row on an ISO layout, but only 5 on an ANSI layout as this keyboard has. Then comes the shift key. I am a huge fan of split keyboards, but as I am touch typing, that required the keys being in the correct relative position to each other.

There are tons of great keyboards out there, unfortunately a lot of them only in ANSI layout.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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> I’d like future versions to integrate a small trackball Maybe you are aware, but it is possible to configure a layer to include mouse controls directly on the keys: https://i.imgur.com/5x3YTg6.png I use this a lot and this prevents me from having to reach for the mouse to do trivial stuff.

I’d extend this comment further to eliminate your use of the word “trivial”. I don’t have a mouse anymore. Mouse keys are “better overall”, in my experience, for everything except gaming. That being said, I left the EZ’s configurator a long time ago. The tweaking to get mouse keys working optimally probably requires diving into the actual firmware. For example, you definitely need MK_COMBINED to combine basic acceler…

This is really interesting: I'd love to hear more about how you have the mouse key layer set up and how you've managed to make it work as well for you as a mouse or trackpad.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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My question is how one get adjusted to ortholinear layout and move back to staggered when using laptop outdoors.

It's a reasonable question. I chose to learn a different keyboard layout (Colemak) for my ortholinear keyboards and use QWERTY on staggered keyboards. I'm not sure if that made a difference, but I don't have difficulty using the laptop keyboard. It's probably simpler than that though, with the mind just tilting the "vertical" axis over when necessary.
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