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Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by thedoctor_o »

pdntspa wrote: post #19
Markoff wrote: post #5

It's still actively developed just under different name https://getwacup.com I think it's my longest used app in desktop already since previous millennium, followed by TCMD and IrfanView. edit: tried to install new Winamp and unlike WACUP ir requires me to install also Microsoft Visual C++ which also requires computer restart, all of this to use dumb music player? not very user friendly, no other app in desktop misse…

Now that Winamp has resumed development what place does WACUP have? I wanted to like WACUP but found it very crashy.

Most of the crashes tend to be due to the parts re-used from 5.666. Also it's a preview build (aka public beta) so it can & will be unstable.

As for what place it has, I'm going to still make it because I've very clearly been made unwelcome to remain as a "winamp" user plus I don't like where it's owners are taking it with all of the ntf related stuff & taking the piss out of the user base for so long. So if I want to have something that can keep my plug-ins working then I've got to make my own player which is what I'm doing.

-dro

Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by weinzierl »

papruapap wrote: post #37
chrsw wrote: post #11

Older software like this runs extremely fast on my newest hardware. Switching to lightweight native apps is sometimes more of a speedup than dropping >$3000 on new a workstation class laptop. Of course, you usually need the latest hardware to eat through modern workloads. But aside from that, I sometimes forget clearing out software bloat is a much more effective way to gain performance, productivity and improvements…

to be fair, Winamp is probably one of the smoothest softwares ever. A lot of new "native" apps have transitions and fancy effects that makes them as slow as the electron-based ones.

If you like smooth software check out Justin Frankel's other stuff like Reaper.

Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by myfonj »

readevalpanic wrote: post #25
chrsw wrote: post #11

Older software like this runs extremely fast on my newest hardware. Switching to lightweight native apps is sometimes more of a speedup than dropping >$3000 on new a workstation class laptop. Of course, you usually need the latest hardware to eat through modern workloads. But aside from that, I sometimes forget clearing out software bloat is a much more effective way to gain performance, productivity and improvements…

Older software sometimes runs just as fast on older hardware, too. It’s anecdotal, but I never remember waiting on Winamp to start up. iTunes, on the other hand, has always seemed slow.

> I never remember waiting on Winamp to start up.

Me neither, but I remember I was annoyed few times it took "ages" to load a "library" of few (thousands) tracks and then consumed considerable amount of RAM. Maybe TENS of megabytes even (!!1!).

So I remember the relief when I switched to Billy audio player [1], that was way more "spartan" and had just those few features I really needed, and then joy of even faster start time and negligible memory footprint.

[1] https://www.sheepfriends.com/index-page=billy.html (download is "temporarily off", but there are comparisons with Winamp and screensot).

Re: Winamp 5.9

#54

Post by trinsic2 »

piokoch wrote: post #35
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Teams daily on a MacBook Pro with 32 GB RAM. If I walk away from the laptop and Teams detects idleness, it starts consuming 100% CPU and the fan turns on. Returning to the computer, everything is dog slow for several minutes. Drives me crazy. The other thing that drives me crazy about Teams is there still is no “temporary mute” for channels. I can’t mute a channel for say, an hour. I have to suffer through noti…

Phew, only those two things? How about not being able to copy stuff from chat (for some reason this does not work since Skype for Business times)? How about being kicked off from the current chat if one dares to open MS Word/Excel from within the chat? And that's just the beginning of the annoyance. But, luckily, we can easily integrate our chat with MS Stocks application, and, even better, with MS Power BI! I have a…

I always here that Microsoft employees should know that their software never works that great. I often wonder somebody must know what Microsoft employees think. I mean, don't Microsoft employees talk to people outside of Microsoft?

Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by hunter2_ »

acidburnNSA wrote: post #20
ethbr0 wrote: post #6

I'll just leave this here to stoke the flames of nostalgia: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Winamp2.PNG

I've said this a few times on here but I'll say it again. Starting from 86Box, archive.org, and winworld, I've been building a VM of my 1996 Gateway 2000 with Windows 95 and re-installing all the old goodies. I also did a find on my mp3 library and found everything last modified before 1999 and loaded them up on there as well. So now I can actually go into a super realistic VM experience in full screen and use Winamp…

Ah, the WEP. Loved me some Chip's Challenge and JezzBall.

Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by kitsunesoba »

acidburnNSA wrote: post #20
ethbr0 wrote: post #6

I'll just leave this here to stoke the flames of nostalgia: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Winamp2.PNG

I've said this a few times on here but I'll say it again. Starting from 86Box, archive.org, and winworld, I've been building a VM of my 1996 Gateway 2000 with Windows 95 and re-installing all the old goodies. I also did a find on my mp3 library and found everything last modified before 1999 and loaded them up on there as well. So now I can actually go into a super realistic VM experience in full screen and use Winamp…

I’ve considered setting up an old OS VM for various types of serious usage, but as snappy and responsive as they are you can feel a certain reduced crispness compared to real hardware, probably due to latency increases coming from the hardware and software layers involved.

I’ll have to try with Windows but it’s apparent when running Mac OS 9 and early releases of OS X in qemu-ppc or SheepShaver — despite the machine the VM is running on being vastly more powerful the old Powebook G3 Pismo in my closet (modded with an SSD of course) feels more snappy.

What’d I’d really like to see is reproduction old hardware on modern process nodes with a modern port outlay, screen, etc. Something like that Pismo could easily fit on a card the size of an rPi compute element which would make it easy to fit in just about any laptop chassis imaginable.

Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by jasonlotito »

Everyone over here lauding the speed of Winamp and comparing it one-to-one to iTunes forgets that Winamp never stopped existing and they were free to continue to use it. Comparing it to iTunes is silly if Winamp did everything you needed and wanted.

But, we all know that iTunes did a lot more than just play music. And you can argue the merits of whether those things were good or not, but again, Winamp never stopped existing, and it never added the additional features people clearly wanted.

Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by djkoolaide »

anta40 wrote: post #49
Thaxll wrote: post #45

Foobar is the "new" Winamp, it has been for 15years+ https://www.foobar2000.org/

+1 for Foobar2000 Bonus point: https://www.foobar2000.org/mac (MacOS version) No idea if there are some missing features that are exists on Windows version.

The macOS version is different codebase -- most (or maybe all) user components are only compatible with the OG Windows version.

Thankfully foo runs flawlessly under WINE, plugins and all.

Re: Winamp 5.9

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Post by kitsunesoba »

geerlingguy wrote: post #15
yardie wrote: post #4

When Winamp was popular Macs were <5% of the market. I hope they release a version for macos. I don't think the current developers own the IP to Macamp.

SoundJam MP owned the Mac side of the market back then. Until Apple bought it out and converted it into iTunes (which was surprisingly good the first few versions, back when it focused on ripping and playing back music and wasn't stuffed with stores, video content, multiple library management UIs, Podcasts, etc.).

Panic’s Audion also had similar capabilities and was also in the running for being acquired and turned into iTunes.

https://panic.com/extras/audionstory/

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