Stunning to see the fake news and misinformation on social media.
https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1568157931538989056
Queen Elizabeth II has died
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#972Earlier quoted context omitted.
meanwhile, Irish Twitter and TikTok have been absolutely ablaze with celebration...
Speaking as an Irish person who hates inherited titles, those people are effing assholes. What part of don't speak I'll of the dead did they miss out on?
They're probably not Irish people.
https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1568157931538989056
Either your typical bottom-up social media fake news, or the usual MO of certain intelligence agencies to sow division in the anglosphere.
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#974Earlier quoted context omitted.
meanwhile, Irish Twitter and TikTok have been absolutely ablaze with celebration...
Speaking as an Irish person who hates inherited titles, those people are effing assholes. What part of don't speak I'll of the dead did they miss out on?
I've always gone by the motto that if the dead didn't want us to speak ill of them, they shouldn't have been bad people during their lives.
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#975I realise she has just died and it's unbecoming to do anything but laud the person, but this is just moral obsequiousness. She claims fealty by right of blood, reigned as the crown of an extraordinarily cruel empire, and frequently interceded in the democratic government of Britain to protect her private interests.
> reigned as the crown of an extraordinarily cruel empire No she didn't, the empire was effectively over by the time she became queen.
I am not being mean but that is historically illiterate. Britain had over seventy overseas territories in 1952, including swathes of dependent colonies across Africa and the Middle East. The Labour government that had just left office had a full-throated vision of a recrudescent British Empire. Britain violently repressed independence movements in Malaysia, Kenya, Cyprus and Yemen while the Queen sat on the throne. South Africa had just entered into apartheid. The Suez Crisis was still to come.
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#976Nice.
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#977Nice
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#978Stunning to see the fake news and misinformation on social media. https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1568157931538989056
This tweet itself is a misrepresentation.
There's a history of monarchist sympathy in Ireland, partly stemming from the history of anglo-irish wealth in Dublin (readers of this journalist's paper) but also the political party that's been in power for the past 11 years would be historically sympathetic (as I guess would some subset of their voters).
That said, none of the above is broadly representative of a majority, and apart from the one example she posts there of a tweet being shared out of context, there's been a very loud and varied anti monarchy sentiment expressed within Irish (not American) media and circles today. Much of the reportage is in fact not misinformation.
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#979It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…
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#980This is the most disappointing thread I’ve seen on HN in a long time. A large number of accounts have been banned and rightly so. There are lots of good and interesting comments, but also lots of comments dancing on her grave. This is one of the lowest, meanest and fundamentally uninteresting things one can engage in.
I would say there are many things lower one can engage in than commenting on an internet forum on a news event, not least, presiding over decades of colonial terror and genocide.
It might be worth considering that comments you find offensive due to their apparent disrespect might be justified in their anger in some way you can't directly relate to.