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Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by rdixit »

This lady represents British military violence to millions of black and brown people around the world. I don't understand why people, especially the British, aren't ashamed of this person.

India alone had $45 trillion dollars of wealth looted from the country: https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/how-britain-stole-dollar4...

Literally millions of Indians died as a result of deliberate policies of colonization and economic enslavement by the British.

Their history in Africa is too chilling to even recount here.

In 7 decades as a figurehead and leader of her people, she never apologized for these crimes, and continued to quietly benefit from the spoils of war.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-koh-i-noor...

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by ycombinete »

93po wrote: post #761
2pEXgD0fZ5cF wrote: post #716

I gotta admit that it is a bit weird to see british royalty being so heavily privileged that they even get special moderation treatment here on HN to protect them (?) from any negativity, or rather stop negativity about them. I'm not keen on the idea of using this submission to flame the Queen, I obviously agree with the general rule of avoiding flamebait, what I mean is that other HN submissions on the deaths of peo…

I love hating on moderation and I'm always ready to be critical of it, and of dang, if it's warranted. But I will say "monarchy is bad" comments are boring and don't lead to interesting discussion. There's a million other places to express that if you want.

> I love hating on moderation and I'm always ready to be critical of it, and of dang

That's an oddly positive attitude to hatred.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

NoraCodes wrote: post #262
saberience wrote: post #71

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

meanwhile, Irish Twitter and TikTok have been absolutely ablaze with celebration...

Speaking as an Irish person who hates inherited titles, those people are effing assholes. What part of don't speak I'll of the dead did they miss out on?

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by gadders »

rdixit wrote: post #931

This lady represents British military violence to millions of black and brown people around the world. I don't understand why people, especially the British, aren't ashamed of this person. India alone had $45 trillion dollars of wealth looted from the country: https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/how-britain-stole-dollar4... Literally millions of Indians died as a result of deliberate policies of colonization and econo…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by gadders »

rikthevik wrote: post #733
orobinson wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same. I think it’s because it really represents the end of an era. The 20th and early 21st century ushered in unprecedented improvements to quality of life in Britain but it has felt of late that that has peaked and the country is facing a serious decline: Brexit, the increasingly visible effects of climate change, the aftermath of covid, the possible break up of the union, rising costs of living, recessio…

My understanding is that the late 70s and early 80s in England was a hopeless place. As evidence I submit Alan Moore's introduction to V for Vendetta and Ghost Town by the Specials. - https://slendertroll.tumblr.com/post/66114152363 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Town_(Specials_song) "Naivete can also be detected in my supposition that it would take something as melodramatic as a near-miss nuclear conflict to…

Yes, years of an ineffective Labour government did that. It wasn't until Mrs Thatcher took control of the economy that the mood started to pick up.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by chamberecho »

sizzle wrote: post #840
fwip wrote: post #785

Lots of people, especially in former colonies, are justifiably glad to hear of her passing. For instance, the people in Kenya or India whose family survived the war crimes inflicted by the British under her reign.

Thank you for speaking up. Diversity of perspectives is important to society.

No it isn't!

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by aydnina »

saberience wrote: post #71

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

I found the psychology of this comment very interesting. Beautiful expression of the realization that the West has lost to Russia.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by nayaketo »

jollybean wrote: post #834
orobinson wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same. I think it’s because it really represents the end of an era. The 20th and early 21st century ushered in unprecedented improvements to quality of life in Britain but it has felt of late that that has peaked and the country is facing a serious decline: Brexit, the increasingly visible effects of climate change, the aftermath of covid, the possible break up of the union, rising costs of living, recessio…

'Long period of stability' since WW1? WW2? The Cold War? Maybe you're young, but this 'feeling of stability' really has only happened since 1991. I remember before that, and it was very scary living with the Soviet Union and all those countries with nukes pointed at us. Also, the 1960s-1980s wrought huge economic change, as the last phase of major 'Democratic Socialist' changes occurred, desegregation/civil rights in…

> It's amazing if you were a poor kid from Hyderabad (i.e. to have material stability), but not so good otherwise.

Indeed. It is amazing to not starve and live a prosperous yet "boring" lives. Wouldn't have it any other way.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by danuker »

9991 wrote: post #875
irthomasthomas wrote: post #194

Queen Elizabeth shepherded Britain through one of the longest periods of peace, and stability in our history. I hope King Charles will continue that tradition. I always remember this letter she wrote in a old copy of Burke's Peerage, on why she was banning the use of foreign titles. "As chaste women ought not to cast their eyes on any other than their own husbands, so neither ought subjects to cast their eyes upon an…

That letter is one of the worst things I’ve ever read. She believed that God put her above other people.

Or was obligated by the position to say so.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by rdixit »

gadders wrote: post #934
rdixit wrote: post #931

This lady represents British military violence to millions of black and brown people around the world. I don't understand why people, especially the British, aren't ashamed of this person. India alone had $45 trillion dollars of wealth looted from the country: https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/how-britain-stole-dollar4... Literally millions of Indians died as a result of deliberate policies of colonization and econo…

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