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Apple’s Killing the Password. Here’s Everything You Need to Know

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> Passkeys work in Apple’s Safari web browser as well as on its devices.

I sure wish apple would be a little bit better of a citizen when it comes to interoperability. Safari only features (which is what I'm assuming this will be based on apples history and the quote) are upsetting. uBlock is the single most important piece of software on my computer and my devotion to it exceeds any and all possible other features.

I would very much like to stop moving from password manager to password manager after they take VC money to corrupt their trust model so they can make money.

From the article:

> Because Apple developed its passkeys based on the FIDO Alliance standards, the passkeys can work across devices and on the web. If you try to log in to one of your accounts on a Windows machine, you’ll have to use a slightly different method since your passkeys won’t be stored on that machine. (If they are saved in an external password manager, you would need to log in to that first).

> Instead, when you log in to a website in Google Chrome, for example, you will have to use a QR code and your iPhone to help you sign in. The QR code contains a URL that includes single-use encryption keys. Once scanned, your phone and the computer are able to communicate using an end-to-end encrypted network via Bluetooth and share information.

I suppose that's not the worst workaround, and the local exchange is pretty clever, but it sure would be nice if this would work with Firefox out of the box.

Re: Apple’s Killing the Password. Here’s Everything You Need to Know

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One thing I never understood about this passkeys thing is: how will the passkeys database be kept in sync between your iPhone, your Windows desktop, your Linux laptop and your Android tablet? I've tried to research the topic a bit but everything I've been able to find has been about exporting and importing between ecosystems, but most people don't use only a single company's products.

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One thing I never understood about this passkeys thing is: how will the passkeys database be kept in sync between your iPhone, your Windows desktop, your Linux laptop and your Android tablet? I've tried to research the topic a bit but everything I've been able to find has been about exporting and importing between ecosystems, but most people don't use only a single company's products.

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One thing I never understood about this passkeys thing is: how will the passkeys database be kept in sync between your iPhone, your Windows desktop, your Linux laptop and your Android tablet? I've tried to research the topic a bit but everything I've been able to find has been about exporting and importing between ecosystems, but most people don't use only a single company's products.

Apple has a long history of working best together with Apple. For example, the iPod music players only worked with iTunes. I think that Apple hopes that such features cause people to switch more of their electronics to Apple

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One thing I never understood about this passkeys thing is: how will the passkeys database be kept in sync between your iPhone, your Windows desktop, your Linux laptop and your Android tablet? I've tried to research the topic a bit but everything I've been able to find has been about exporting and importing between ecosystems, but most people don't use only a single company's products.

Passwords are synced to Windows via iCloud, i suppose these keys would be synced like that as well: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/icloud-windows/icwd3c1...

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One thing I never understood about this passkeys thing is: how will the passkeys database be kept in sync between your iPhone, your Windows desktop, your Linux laptop and your Android tablet? I've tried to research the topic a bit but everything I've been able to find has been about exporting and importing between ecosystems, but most people don't use only a single company's products.

Apple has a long history of working best together with Apple. For example, the iPod music players only worked with iTunes. I think that Apple hopes that such features cause people to switch more of their electronics to Apple

And the educated consumer hopes one of these players will push to face and trigger anticompetitive legislation.

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One thing I never understood about this passkeys thing is: how will the passkeys database be kept in sync between your iPhone, your Windows desktop, your Linux laptop and your Android tablet? I've tried to research the topic a bit but everything I've been able to find has been about exporting and importing between ecosystems, but most people don't use only a single company's products.

Apple has a long history of working best together with Apple. For example, the iPod music players only worked with iTunes. I think that Apple hopes that such features cause people to switch more of their electronics to Apple

Sure, but this is trying to replace passwords. As much as Apple would want it different, there's a whole lot of people who use one Apple device but has other devices from other manufacturers, and surely an industry effort like FIDO to replace passwords would take that into account?
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