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Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by gigatexal »

So one of the worlds best tourist attractions has died. Bummer. What is the point of the UK royal family again other than being a very expensive family on welfare? (UK tax payers paid them some 50M pounds for “support”.)

I’ll admit growing up I had some affinity for all the good in the world Pincess Diana was doing. And then she died. Which was sad. Her life ruined by the royal family and a failed marriage to guy who wasn’t faithful. And then many years later after visiting the UK and learning how much the public supported them financially etc and how little power they had and other than being the face of the money I asked myself: “what is the point of it all? To sell tabloids?”

Or if you come from one of the countries like me that was colonized under her watch you might have this reaction: https://twitter.com/laurajedeed/status/1567940027279196170?s...

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by baq »

creativenolo wrote: post #775
2pEXgD0fZ5cF wrote: post #716

I gotta admit that it is a bit weird to see british royalty being so heavily privileged that they even get special moderation treatment here on HN to protect them (?) from any negativity, or rather stop negativity about them. I'm not keen on the idea of using this submission to flame the Queen, I obviously agree with the general rule of avoiding flamebait, what I mean is that other HN submissions on the deaths of peo…

For us who don't feel for the monarchy or think it has minimal impact or significance on our lives, the next couple of weeks (or months) is going to be grueling as we have to stay quiet, bite our tongues and bare the over-the-top ness of this situation to not offend others. I was disappointed in this moderation warning. The ex-prime minister of the UK who led us through a pandemic where hundreds of thousands died has…

I don't live in the UK, but it looks like it's a proper big deal for a large part of your society... I guess that's what society is about. Sometimes you have to give way.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by shmde »

fareesh wrote: post #879
moomoo11 wrote: post #815

As someone whose people and grandparents suffered under British rule, really don’t care. British imperialism is a bloodstain that I’m not gonna just forget about because the smile behind the menace has passed.

As someone in the same situation I find this opinion to be equivalent to a Vietnamese man telling everyone he is reminded of the Vietnam war on the day that Barack Obama dies.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by thewileyone »

sdfjkl wrote: post #697

Imagine being groomed to do this job from birth, with no real way to opt out[1]. You wanted to breed horses, become a blacksmith or start a business? Get that nonsense out of your head, you're a princess! Then, when you're 25, your daddy dies aged only 56 and after a rather brief period of mourning you get pushed into taking his job in a pompous ceremony. Now you're going to be doing this until you die. No retirement…

"The Queen" did a fairly good account of how this went down for Elizabeth.

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Post by Veen »

creativenolo wrote: post #775
2pEXgD0fZ5cF wrote: post #716

I gotta admit that it is a bit weird to see british royalty being so heavily privileged that they even get special moderation treatment here on HN to protect them (?) from any negativity, or rather stop negativity about them. I'm not keen on the idea of using this submission to flame the Queen, I obviously agree with the general rule of avoiding flamebait, what I mean is that other HN submissions on the deaths of peo…

For us who don't feel for the monarchy or think it has minimal impact or significance on our lives, the next couple of weeks (or months) is going to be grueling as we have to stay quiet, bite our tongues and bare the over-the-top ness of this situation to not offend others. I was disappointed in this moderation warning. The ex-prime minister of the UK who led us through a pandemic where hundreds of thousands died has…

I would suggest that many more people are saddened by the Queen’s death than consider it a meaningless inconvenience, as you appear to. Perhaps you could be sensitive to the feelings of your fellow citizens, even if they do disrupt your day somewhat.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by karencarits »

creativenolo wrote: post #775
2pEXgD0fZ5cF wrote: post #716

I gotta admit that it is a bit weird to see british royalty being so heavily privileged that they even get special moderation treatment here on HN to protect them (?) from any negativity, or rather stop negativity about them. I'm not keen on the idea of using this submission to flame the Queen, I obviously agree with the general rule of avoiding flamebait, what I mean is that other HN submissions on the deaths of peo…

For us who don't feel for the monarchy or think it has minimal impact or significance on our lives, the next couple of weeks (or months) is going to be grueling as we have to stay quiet, bite our tongues and bare the over-the-top ness of this situation to not offend others. I was disappointed in this moderation warning. The ex-prime minister of the UK who led us through a pandemic where hundreds of thousands died has…

Society is give and take; roads and services are closed, tax money spent, and favorite TV shows cancelled for things like sports events, concerts, and state visits that one may personally oppose

I hope you manage to find some meaning in what will happen in the next few weeks. For many, this is a great loss, perhaps can there be learning in being curious and compassionate regarding other people's experience of loss and grief, and their hopes and fears for the future

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by troad »

moomoo11 wrote: post #815

As someone whose people and grandparents suffered under British rule, really don’t care. British imperialism is a bloodstain that I’m not gonna just forget about because the smile behind the menace has passed.

The Queen oversaw the largely peaceful end of British imperialism, not its rise or growth.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by bearmode »

saberience wrote: post #71

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

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Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

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Post by unmole »

Nursie wrote: post #169
saberience wrote: post #71

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

Apparently, when I was little, I got excited one Christmas when the Queen’s speech was on tv, because I thought it was my Grandmother… I used to take comfort in the idea that all things pass in time, now not so much. Probably because I realised that includes everyone I love, and myself! I’ve no great love for the monarchy, but this is certainly the end of an era in British public life and likely in UK international r…

> UK international relations

Yeah, no. Countries don't care about who is on the throne. They nod along to the British monarchy because they value diplomatic relations with Britain. Just like how they put up with Trump's children.

> I can’t see the commonwealth nations welcoming King Charles as their new head of state.

If you meant the Commonwealth of Nations, Charles was confirmed as the successor in CHOGM 2018. If you meant Commonwealth Realms, their close economic and military ties to Britain are not going to change anyways.

I get that this is an emotional loss to Britain. But let's not pretend there's going to be a material difference.

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