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Queen Elizabeth II has died

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It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

I share your feeling. I was struck by a deep sense of sadness as well. Maybe it’s silly, I don’t know, I sort of felt she was the grandma of the nation. It was a nice feeling knowing she’s there and a sad one knowing she no longer is.

One thing is for sure. She did leave a mark. Winston God damn Churchill was her first time minister! When I will be old and have grandchildren, I will tell my grandchildren how I became a British citizen. And when they’ll ask me when, I’ll tell them during the reign of The Queen. And they will know who I mean.

God rest her soul.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

#274

Not that this is quite the right time, but is there any list of the Queen's achievements that isn't simply "she lived for very long" and "she witnessed some important events"? I fail to see why this is impressive.

The role of the Monarch is not easy to qualify. She is a symbol of continuation, stability and unity. Her neutrality makes her look like she is doing exactly nothing, when it's the source of her power and influence. She lives above politics. Beyond that, the Queen has real so called reserve powers that in theory she could use in time of great crisis to change government or stop laws (she used it once I think). But she can't use them in an authoritarian manner or else risk losing them and tarnish her legacy.

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#276

Not that this is quite the right time, but is there any list of the Queen's achievements that isn't simply "she lived for very long" and "she witnessed some important events"? I fail to see why this is impressive.

Her main achievement was utterly subordinating her personal life to the requirement of her public life. No one has any idea of what her personal belief was on any matter more consequential than what brand of cornflakes she ate.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

#277
Thoughts for the family, and all people affectively attached to the monarchy

That being said, given the geopolitical situation, I would not want to be responsible for the sitting arrangement of international dignitaires at the funeral.

(In a fantasy book, it would be the "perfect" occasion for every one to meet on "sacred ground", observe a truce, and get so drunk that unexpected settlements get found.

Sadly, we don't live in a fantasy book.)

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

#278
I don't believe in monarchies generally, and this sentiment remains throughout my life, although for slightly different reasons that keep improving with age. The more I read and know about history, the more I understand that the ideal of the Enlightened Monarch is a rare event, that can be destroyed in a single generation (we only have to look at Imperial Rome history for quite a few examples).

Still, I do really respect the person and work that Elizabeth II did thorough her entire life, I really believe she helped improve the world with her limited power.

Many purely democratic countries - mine included - would be so lucky to have her as the head of state.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

#279
One person should not receive so much attention. People die. We all die. Yes, I understand she was a fake Queen of a country, but so what?

Why do we feel we need to worship these people, be it royalty or celebrities? They are just people, like you and me who happen to be famous.

People are dying in Gaza too, maybe spare a tear for them.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

#280

Time to end on a high? Shall we just abandon this whole monarchy thing and time to flip over to a republic and leave the much revered queen as the last ever monarch of the UK? Seems like Scotland is going to go independent, and if Scotland do Wales will only be a matter of time so may as well just can it now?

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