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Bitwarden raises $100M

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Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by robertlagrant »

dimitrios1 wrote: post #510
robertlagrant wrote: post #505

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I mean if they're making money from things people are freely choosing to buy, that's about as close to good as I can imagine for a large organisation.

My point was "buying" typically implies ownership in conversations like these, when these corporations are actively resisting you actually completely owning their products. We are more like temporary renters. And this has unfortunate consequences for the rest of the goods economy. Won't be long, as an example, before Samsung doesn't want you to actually own your refrigerator, TV, or washer, or Tesla and GM not wantin…

If any of that ever happens then at that point then there's something to talk about. And the answer will be: freely choose to buy something else.

But my overall point is that getting rich from making something high quality that lots of people what is about as honest a way as there is.

Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by bmurphy1976 »

coldblues wrote: post #308
bmurphy1976 wrote: post #274

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I'm not the op but I find the Android experience to be pretty terrible. It almost never gives me the option to auto-fill my passwords and when it does it's usually because I already went out of my way to open Bitwarden. It's very inconsistent and frustrating. I'm not running any weird Android version either. Pixel 5, stock OS, always up-to-date. The thing is, I've never used any other password manager on Android so I…

Have you checked if it's enabled in your accessibility settings? It needs to overlay itself over other apps. After having enabled it, it started working fine.

As far as I can tell it's enabled. The only other option I see is an option to turn on an overlay button but I definitely do not want ANY app drawing a button on my screen 100% of the time.

Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by wpietri »

chrismorgan wrote: post #74
yewenjie wrote: post #46

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But isn't it just a clone of the Bitwarden server without any extra feature?

I’ve been using Vaultwarden for just myself for at least a couple of years now, and it’s at 32MB of disk space ( That’s feature. (As a matter of fact, it’s grown quite a bit since I started using it; it used to be under 20MB of disk space and 10–15MB of RSS.)

I really miss seeing numbers like that. I'm in something like my 5th week of a Dropbox support ticket where they seem to think it reasonable that the headless client uses an extra 100MB of RAM every hour, eventually using 20-30GB of RAM, at which point I restart it and watch it start climbing again.

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Post by rocqua »

chrismorgan wrote: post #218
falcor84 wrote: post #76

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Yup: Section 2.1: "By submitting a Contribution, you assign to Bitwarden all right, title, and interest in any copyright in the Contribution and you waive any rights, including any moral rights or database rights, that may affect our ownership of the copyright in the Contribution.

It’s a fascinating situation, really: this kind of asymmetry (AGPL for you, but not for us, even if you contribute) is antithetical to the purpose of the AGPL, but desirable for the leaders of quite a large fraction of projects that choose the license (to the point that they might either not use the AGPL or not accept contributions if they couldn’t do it).

I think a CLA that says "You provide us with an additional license to re-publish your code under any license we choose" with modifications to limit attribution, might work. That way the code is perpetually AGPL, but the company is free to offer derivative works under other licenses. Hence you can always use your code, you can fork, you can do all you want, and the company cannot take the code, as it stands at that point, away from the public.

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Post by rocqua »

rvz wrote: post #48
yewenjie wrote: post #20

> The Bitwarden business model will not change Bitwarden remains committed to A fully featured free version, forever An open source architecture The ability to self-host Advanced business features This is great!

> This is great! Keybase said the same thing.

Keybase was providing a solution to something most normal people did not even realize could be a problem. It was a great idea, solving a really big problem. But the awareness of that problem was very small. Hence the ability to monetize a solution aimed at the general public was also very low.

I still love the idea, but I don't see how it is a business.

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Post by hbn »

jlund-molfese wrote: post #491
hbn wrote: post #324

Not related to the fundraising, but a more general question I've had about password managers for a while: Why does anyone pay a subscription for their password manager when all you need is a client that talks to any old free cloud storage service (Dropbox, iCloud, Google Drive, etc)? I feel like I might be grandfathered in and they switched to a new model now, but I got Enpass years ago and haven't paid since. I sync…

Sync conflicts are pretty common with KeePassXC on Dropbox (iCloud, Google Drive are not viable options on Linux). I also didn't want to run the Dropbox client just to sync passwords. Paying Bitwarden $10/year made sense to me.

Why would you need to run the Dropbox client to sync your passwords? Shouldn't the password manager client be able to talk to the service directly?

I don't have an iCloud client installed on my devices (well, other than whatever is built into Apple devices) but Enpass just uses their APIs to sync passwords. Occasionally I have to reauthenticate on one of my machines but it tells me as soon as it loses access. Previously I synced it over Google Drive and I never installed a Google Drive client either.

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Post by jlund-molfese »

hbn wrote: post #516
jlund-molfese wrote: post #491

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Sync conflicts are pretty common with KeePassXC on Dropbox (iCloud, Google Drive are not viable options on Linux). I also didn't want to run the Dropbox client just to sync passwords. Paying Bitwarden $10/year made sense to me.

Why would you need to run the Dropbox client to sync your passwords? Shouldn't the password manager client be able to talk to the service directly? I don't have an iCloud client installed on my devices (well, other than whatever is built into Apple devices) but Enpass just uses their APIs to sync passwords. Occasionally I have to reauthenticate on one of my machines but it tells me as soon as it loses access. Previou…

It's totally possible, but that sounds like it would cost a lot of development time. The KeePassXC project in particular decided not to implement cloud connectors due to a lack of resources.

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Post by jbaczuk »

mdaniel wrote: post #468
jbaczuk wrote: post #453

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Oh, ok I misread the original post. Yeah I have had trouble with the browser extensions for 1Password for the last few years, will probably switch to self hosting bitwarden soon.

heh, if you think the 1P browser extensions are rough, you're going to really get a kick out of the tire-fire that the BW ones are

well i'm not using them anyway, so maybe i can save some money and not have to trust a 3rd party

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Post by imwillofficial »

_verandaguy wrote: post #466
imwillofficial wrote: post #451

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I moved to RememBear, they recently went EoL. Others were trying KeePass and Password safe as local options. Basically chasing the new shiny.

Gotcha. And small world, until recently I worked at the company behind Remembear. Shame it had to be sunset.

I loved that software more than any on my Mac. It just made me happy, the thought that went into the small stuff tickled me.
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