Sometimes the less strict separation is a feature, not a bug. Without folder sharing with dockers for example, it would be pretty useless.
While a flawed comparison, WSL does use a VM in conjunction with the 9p protocol to achieve folder sharing.
My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
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Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#12Title is kinda clickbaity (wha-? how can a VM be lighter than a container). It's about unikernels.
Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#13So from that perspective, when I've peeked at firecracker, kata containers, etc, the "small dev dx" isn't quite there yet, or maybe never will get there since the players target other spaces (aws, fly.io, etc). Stuff like a way to share volumes isn't supported, etc. Personally I find Dockers architecture a bit distasteful and Podmans tooling isn't quite there yet (but very close).
Honestly I don't really care about containers vs VMs except the VM alleges better security which is nice, and I guess I like poking at things but they're were a little too rough for weekend poking.
Is anyone doing "small scale" lightweight vm deployments - maybe just in your homelab or toy projects? Have you found the experience better than containers?
Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#14Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#15Kubernetes says no... The article is light on detail. Containers and VMs have different use cases. If you self host lightweight VMs is likely the better path, however, once you in the cloud most managed services only provide support for containers.
Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#16Containers and VMs are totally not the same thing. They serve a complete other purpose , as multiple containers can be combined to create an application/service , VMs always use a complete os etc etc anyway the internet is full of the true purpose of containers , they were never meant to use as a "VM" and about security.. meh everything is insecure until proven differently
Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#17Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#18Why does anyone ever write "two orders of magnitude" when 100x is shorter?
Of course, this presumes 10 as the magnitude and the N orders to be the exponent, but I don't think I've ever, since the 90s, seen that stilted phrasing ever used for a base other than 10.
Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#19"orders of magnitude" : Why does anyone ever write "two orders of magnitude" when 100x is shorter? Of course, this presumes 10 as the magnitude and the N orders to be the exponent, but I don't think I've ever, since the 90s, seen that stilted phrasing ever used for a base other than 10.
Re: My VM is lighter (and safer) than your container (2017)
#20This paper references consistently mischaracterizes AWS Lambda as a "Container as a Service" technology, when in fact it is exactly the sort of lightweight VM that they are describing - https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/firecracker-lightweight-vir...
For what it’s worth, Google’s cloud functions are a container service. You can even download the final docker container.