$354 seems pricey when compared to a keyboard.io Model 100, that features custom keycaps for improved ergonomics and hopefully starts shipping this week.
ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
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Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
#12I have the Moonlander and am a big fan. I haven't taken real advantage of the open-source firmware other than customizing the layout so that is is as close to a traditional layout as I could make it, given the physical layout of the keys (this mostly has to do with where you put the backspace, delete, enter, |\, control, arrow, and other keys, not the actual letters).
It's well built and looks super cool, but the real reason I got it is because it encourages a more upright, shoulders-straight/non-hunched over position. I think regular split keyboards do a good enough job of taking care of wrist issues / carpal tunnel, but only these can really help with overall back/shoulder position.
Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
#13I recently purchased their newer keyboard, the Moonlander MK I. I've been very happy with it so far! This is my first ortholinear layout, so it's taken some getting used to, but I've been very happy with the customizability and the programming process. ZSA provides a webpage that lets you remap your key layout and flash it to your keyboard right from browser, without downloading any other software, which has been sup…
I was looking at the Dygma Raise when I discovered ortholinear layouts. That led me to the Moonlander, but now Dygma has the Defy which is a more premium gamer look to it. If anyone is curious it starts at $350 USD to preorder.
That said, I’m happy with my Moonlander using it with a Dvorak layout. Had it for about 2 years now. Only issue is that it slides around when tented.
Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
#14Been using for 6 years, bought used off ebay so keyboard is actually older. It's great but also a bit a rabbit hole that ends up with modifying code in QMK because none of the ten thousand layouts already in existance are quite right.
Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
#15Each time I see this I really want to buy it, but I can't justify the price tag. Especially since I already have a 'regular' Ergodox from Falbatech. I recently bought a Keychron Q1, because I was also craving for just a regular keyboard with QMK support.
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#16I've had an Ergodox EZ for 4 years and it's awesome. Once you learn to type on it and take advantage of the multitude of macros, it's almost telepathic. But I end up using an inexpensive bluetooth keyboard most of the time because I work between a macbook (that doesn't like USB-A without a dock or dongle) and a windows desktop. I've thought about getting a USB switcher hub or a bluetooth dongle for the ergodox, but a…
You could use a software solution like ‘Sharemouse’ or Synergy (the former having working drag n drop and copy paste between windows and osx
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#17I love split keyboards but had to return this one because after using it for a week my brain was still unable to adapt to the different key placements.
This was never an issue for me. In fact I like to change the key bindings so often like emacs users like to tweak their config (I used to do that too but there is no time for so much customization in my life).
I've made so many radically changes in the last year that I think my brain got used to the constant changing and I now gain muscle memory faster. I've also gone from the QWERTY layout to Engram[0] and become fully productive(55wpm) after a month of 30 minute exercises a day on keybr[1]
At the moment I am sitting on this moonlander[2]. Is it worth your time and money? I don't know, I know it is for me. At the least the shoulder pain went away and I've made a fun for me keyboard customization.
[2] https://configure.zsa.io/moonlander/layouts/7B45Y/latest/0
Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
#18Looks awesome. But it's pricey and afaik not wireless. Still want it and the moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander ). I look forward to full wireless options for these so I can just give them my money.
Bear in mind wireless keyboard protocols are very hard to create without side channel and key injection attacks.
Wired is the way to go if you do not want to be easily wirelessly implanted with malware or keylogged.
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Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
#19If you’re interested in ergo, I recommend visiting the ergo keyboard comparison tool [1] to get a sense of how deep this rabbit hole goes. And you can now use YAML to prototype custom layouts via Ergogen [2]. [1] https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ [2] https://ergogen.cache.works/
> I recommend visiting the ergo keyboard comparison tool [1]
As far as I can tell, the list of keyboards seems dated and does not include the Ergodox EZ
Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware
#20I've had an Ergodox EZ for 4 years and it's awesome. Once you learn to type on it and take advantage of the multitude of macros, it's almost telepathic. But I end up using an inexpensive bluetooth keyboard most of the time because I work between a macbook (that doesn't like USB-A without a dock or dongle) and a windows desktop. I've thought about getting a USB switcher hub or a bluetooth dongle for the ergodox, but a…
I curate more mobile ergonomic setups at https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMobileComputers/ . After a year of looking at different designs I'm starting to explore something based on the Atreus but with about half the keys being chopped down a bit.