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Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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How big of a problem is this in the states? In Europe, nobody I know, and I really mean I don’t know one single person that uses SMS or SMS-like apps like iMessage. If I open my messages app, I only have there my 2FA messages. It’s either WhatsApp or Signal

In France I have plain SMS texts with 9 different people (friends &family) if I look back just to mid-August.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not true at all. Even close, why does someone always spew this stuff here? There's billions of SMS messages delivered every day in Europe - from businesses to people who don't have Facebooks WhatsApp/Messenger preinstalled. Why is it so hard to understand that your little life bubble isn't the whole world?

Nobody in Europe is using SMS for communication, because it is bloody expensive.

In Poland I pay flat monthly rate for all in-country calls and SMSes. It is internet usage that you pay more when going over certain limit. SMSes being expensive would be true story maybe 10 or 15 years ago.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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> If you’ve tried to send a video from Android to iOS (or vice versa) using your regular text messaging app, then you know that your videos come out completely fuzzy on the other end.

Why would i want to send a video using a text messaging app ? It't like using a hammer instead of keys to open a door. There are apps made for video messaging.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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post #43

> If you’ve tried to send a video from Android to iOS (or vice versa) using your regular text messaging app, then you know that your videos come out completely fuzzy on the other end. Why would i want to send a video using a text messaging app ? It't like using a hammer instead of keys to open a door. There are apps made for video messaging.

You are technical.

People in general are not.

They do not understand why the video shouldn’t be sent by a text messaging app.

They know it works best when on an apple device.

This keeps people on apple devices.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

#45

In my corporate training, we're counselled to never refer to what competitors do, and particularly not to discuss affecting competitor sales (even braggadociously), matters of marketshare etc. to avoid running into risk of bad legal outcomes if such material were to be brought up in trial. Interesting how Apple does not feel compelled to hold itself to the same standard.

Your training is based on both the legal / regulatory / marketing situation in your industry, and issues which can be created by many loose tongues in the trenches. (Especially legal "discovery".)

Vs.: (1) Tim Cook's behavior is based on the situation in his industry, (2) a CEO's "public" job is quite different from the jobs in the trenches, and (3) any edgy statements which Tim seems to make have been gone over, in advance, by the best legal team which money can hire. (And note that legal discovery cannot apply to either the CEO's public statements, nor the legal council he receives regarding those - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_professional_privilege .)

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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What I don't understand: it seems iOS just passed the mark of 50% market share in the US in the last year, and it's now at 50-something.

Which means that Apple users prefer to have a crippled experience when talking to approx. 50% of their contacts rather than switching to an equivalent app that doesn't signal their belonging to the Apple tribe.

Or, in alternative, this means that those 50% of people almost never talk to the the other 50% of people. Not sure which is worse.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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What I don't understand: it seems iOS just passed the mark of 50% market share in the US in the last year, and it's now at 50-something. Which means that Apple users prefer to have a crippled experience when talking to approx. 50% of their contacts rather than switching to an equivalent app that doesn't signal their belonging to the Apple tribe. Or, in alternative, this means that those 50% of people almost never tal…

Alternatively 95% iOS users have no idea RCS is a thing and just think Android sucks because it can't handle video messages the same as iOS. So rather than pressure Apple to add RCS they pressure their friends to get iPhones.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

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post #7

How big of a problem is this in the states? In Europe, nobody I know, and I really mean I don’t know one single person that uses SMS or SMS-like apps like iMessage. If I open my messages app, I only have there my 2FA messages. It’s either WhatsApp or Signal

I do plenty of SMS, not everyone is on WhatsApp or Viber.

Then again I only use iDevices at work, so whatever.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

#49
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not true at all. Even close, why does someone always spew this stuff here? There's billions of SMS messages delivered every day in Europe - from businesses to people who don't have Facebooks WhatsApp/Messenger preinstalled. Why is it so hard to understand that your little life bubble isn't the whole world?

Nobody in Europe is using SMS for communication, because it is bloody expensive.

Where in Europe? Most pre-paid packages have tons of free SMS, mine is around 5000 per month.

Re: Tim Cook says ‘buy your mom an iPhone’ if you want to end green bubbles

#50
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? I'm yet another European who only ever gets SMS from my elderly mother, for 2FA (usually only when dealing with American companies), parcel deliveries, and so on. Oh, and spam and frauds, that's like 75% of the messages I get.

Come to Germany. Enjoy the power of digital communication. I work in a town close to the city center in a new building and i have to go to a certain window to be able to talk on the phone. To have cellular data i have to go out of the building.

Isn't it great only being able to use data plans on the train when they stop at a station?
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