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Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by KronisLV »

rbut wrote: post #77
system2 wrote: post #42

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Ultra rich people don't need religion. Religion is for the people in need.

The rich are no different to the poor. They can't take their wealth with them.

> The rich are no different to the poor. They can't take their worldly possessions with them to the next life.

This holds true, assuming that there's an afterlife of any sort.

If there isn't, then the rich would simply live lavish lives, before ceasing to exist. Same outcome as for the rest of people, rather different experience during their lives.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by iso1631 »

markdown wrote: post #71
sidcool wrote: post #48

It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.

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The American healthcare system, and capitalism in general, tells us that richer people have more right to healthcare than poorer people. Even when supply is fixed (say land), we distribute it based on the ability and willingness of someone to pay, not on need.

Why should organ transplants be any different?

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by phonon »

epistasis wrote: post #45
markdown wrote: post #24

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Given the complexities of the Whipple procedure, I'm not sure I would go through with it either, honestly. I'm not a doctor, but I've dealt with a looot of oncologists, and with people at the end of life from cancer. Most cancer docs would choose to go through with far less cancer treatments than their patients typically choose.

His tumor was caught early and easily operable (it was a rare type of pancreatic cancer that was). No doctor would have suggested he ignore the surgical option for diet etc, changes. By the time he changed his mind/it got worse, his options were much more limited.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by ekianjo »

seibelj wrote: post #35
markdown wrote: post #24

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Also extremely strange is he received a liver transplant much quicker than average, in a state far from where he lived, which later received a $40mil anonymous donation https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2015/11/12/hospital-where-jobs-rece...

Let's not pretend rich people don't skip the line. I mean, it's so obvious it would happen, and no amount of regulation will prevent that because whoever is involved can easily be corrupted with FU money.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by bloppe »

shoto_io wrote: post #29

After reading this a couple of times I think this part stands out: > When I needed medical attention, I was helpless to help myself survive. A very strong and independent character came to realize we all need each other to survive. A good reminder to stay humble.

Lol most ppl figure this out pretty quickly especially the smart ones

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by ptato »

markdown wrote: post #71
sidcool wrote: post #48

It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.

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There's something to be said about the system that allowed that to happen, and the people who made that system possible. I can't expect a person who is fearing for their life to make the most rational and compassionate decisions.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by kolme »

visarga wrote: post #65
pkdpic wrote: post #9

>>> From: Steve Jobs To: Steve Jobs Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010 at 11:08PM I grow little of the food I eat, and of the little I do grow I did not breed or perfect the seeds. I do not make any of my own clothing. I speak a language I did not invent or refine. I did not discover the mathematics I use. I am protected by freedoms and laws I did not conceive of or legislate, and do not enforce or adjudicate. I am mo…

That reads deep, but then it might also be an iPad keyboard test since it's dated in 2010, the same year iPad was introduced.

Those are not mutually exclusive.

Also now that I think about it, that might have been a good product test. To see if the tools get out of the way and let the creativity flow.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by ekianjo »

markdown wrote: post #71
sidcool wrote: post #48

It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad; binary, with no wiggle room to model the complexity of psychology. Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey. He did some awful things and some great ones. That's that. It neither makes him a monster nor a saint. It makes him a... Human.

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> There's no grey there... the guy was a monster.

you mean he was selfish? I'm pretty sure this is widespread trait among humans. Let's say if people were in the same situation as him with FU money and the ability to do that, I'm pretty sure most would do exactly what he did.

Re: Steve Jobs emails himself (2010)

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Post by ekianjo »

iso1631 wrote: post #82
markdown wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The American healthcare system, and capitalism in general, tells us that richer people have more right to healthcare than poorer people. Even when supply is fixed (say land), we distribute it based on the ability and willingness of someone to pay, not on need. Why should organ transplants be any different?

> Why should organ transplants be any different?

the organ collection does not follow any capitalist principle. You can't sell your own organs even if you wanted to. So thats a pretty bad point to make.

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