A previous company used Real Colors, an MBTI knock-off, and it was striking how attached people got to those results. People openly stereotyped whole groups of people because they appeared to cluster in one sector (e.g., SDEs must be Green). They disregarded all counter-examples because they conflicted with these biases. It was weird.
Why companies are interested in Myers-Briggs types
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#92Re: Why companies are interested in Myers-Briggs types
#93Apple went through the Myers-Briggs phase in the 90's, along with a lot of the other tech giants. It was a half-day seminar. "Professionals" gave the tests and told everyone their type. That took only an hour. The rest of the time was spent doing role-playing, where you were supposed to use your coworkers' MB types to adjust your interaction with them in various settings. It was a waste of time then and I bet it stil…
I never worked for Apple, but I went through a similar exercise in the late 1980's. I found the role-playing useful, and I found the techniques we were trained on to be enlightening. Not everybody thinks the same way, and even though it's not valid to categorize people into 16 personality groups, it's useful to understand that people prioritize things and think differently from each other. Here's a great example of t…
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you mean True Colors? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Colors_(personality) My impression from some brief training was that it's based on temperament theory and not a knock off of MBTI.
> Do you mean True Colors? No.[1] > My impression from some brief training was that it's based on temperament theory and not a knock off of MBTI. From your link: > According to this personality temperament theory, which is a refined version of the popular Myers–Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) [...] To-may-to, to-mah-to. [1]: https://realcolors.org/
https://realcolors.org/what_is_realcolors/history/
Anytime they start by rewinding to millennia ago, that's temperament theory. Keirsey's temperament theory that they mention is fundamentally different from typical MBTI in lots of ways. In fact they can both be used to complement each other.
So it's different, or not, depending on whether you want to be accurate, and true to details, or not. (Also someone should correct the way the Wikipedia article is written regarding MBTI)
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#95Re: Why companies are interested in Myers-Briggs types
#96Interestingly, the CIA spy that Lex Fridman had on [0] his podcast said that all the spy agencies use MBTI and that he (interviewee) thinks they are of value. [0] https://youtu.be/T3FC7qIAGZk?t=6127
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#97Re: Why companies are interested in Myers-Briggs types
#98MBTI pretty much takes what are supposed to be basically unimodal binomial distributions and ... slices them and labels the halves different things. Even without getting into whether it's testing something sensible, it's pretty clear that the typology is fundamentally fucked.
And a nice thing about MBTI in the comparing-humans world is that it's way more objective _and_ uses more than one dichotomy unlike lots of other default typologies (cf men-women, especially when MBTI was first developed) _and_ can also resolve down into things like cognitive processes, which provide even more leverage and depth.
Not that MBTI is everything, but it's damn impressive for where it came from.
And, it usually works better to criticize specific typologies using qualitative means than quantitative, just IMO.
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#99The author says each of the big 5 is on a "sliding scale". I admit this is a bit pedantic, but isn't each just on a plain old scale? Wouldn't a sliding scale imply that one score could affect how another was graded?
Not to me; I am actually not familiar with any clear meaning for the phrase "sliding scale". It's just a thing people sometimes say.
If you wanted to say that your score on one axis could affect how your answers to questions on another axis are interpreted, you'd need to call them something like "non-independent". Not much call for that kind of terminology.
Can you provide any examples of someone using "sliding scale" in the sense you suggest?
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#100MBTI is astrology for grad students