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Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by ochoseis »

chazeon wrote: post #117
SloopJon wrote: post #72

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Although Google Fi claims to support eSIM, the front-line support was unable to help me connect an iPhone 13 Pro, and the back-line support never responded. The solution was to buy a physical SIM card. Perhaps Google is uniquely incompetent, but I would be very wary about assuming that an eSIM-only phone will work with a given provider.

I remembered a while ago you meed to first get an physical SIM to activate the line then switch to eSIM. Now sure about now. I’m currently with Google Fi on an eSIM in my 12 mini.

I just set up my iPhone with a Fi eSIM without having to get a physical SIM first. There are oblique references on how to do it at checkout that involve backing out of the default flow and then choosing your iPhone model from a compatibility list. It was quite the maze.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by mrbombastic »

sithadmin wrote: post #147
officialchicken wrote: post #50

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Yes, absolutely a deal breaker... but I carry two phones b/c I do not trust Verizon after being disconnected overseas. Their international plan requires you to re-connect to a US-based cell tower in order to "reactivate" the international plan if it has been disconnected. I am not aware of any service that allows me to buy an e-sim for any given random country airport and activate it before I reach the exit. edit: fo…

Airalo works great for the 'load an esim while in the airport' use case. US Mobile has a similar offering but I haven't tried it out yet.

I used Airalo recently in Argentina and can't say I'd recommend it, it somehow broke my iMessage until I reset a bunch of settings and seemingly got throttled at random despite having a ton of data left. Which is a shame because topping up data that way is much easier than switching out a physical sim. I also don't know if it was an esim problem or an Airalo problem, maybe support will be better when it is only esims.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

chazeon wrote: post #117
SloopJon wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although Google Fi claims to support eSIM, the front-line support was unable to help me connect an iPhone 13 Pro, and the back-line support never responded. The solution was to buy a physical SIM card. Perhaps Google is uniquely incompetent, but I would be very wary about assuming that an eSIM-only phone will work with a given provider.

I remembered a while ago you meed to first get an physical SIM to activate the line then switch to eSIM. Now sure about now. I’m currently with Google Fi on an eSIM in my 12 mini.

This is correct.

Obviously this will have to change at some point since physical sim is going away but I am unsure how long it will take Google to make the change.

Technically, iOS support on Fi is still in beta even though it works quite well.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

ochoseis wrote: post #151
chazeon wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remembered a while ago you meed to first get an physical SIM to activate the line then switch to eSIM. Now sure about now. I’m currently with Google Fi on an eSIM in my 12 mini.

I just set up my iPhone with a Fi eSIM without having to get a physical SIM first. There are oblique references on how to do it at checkout that involve backing out of the default flow and then choosing your iPhone model from a compatibility list. It was quite the maze.

If I remember my experience correctly, you can only set up an iPhone with esim first if you are a new Fi member.

Existing members, even those using esim on Android phones, have to get a physical sim first.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

loxs wrote: post #61
belligeront wrote: post #40

People who travel frequently, does the lack of physical SIM card concern you? I'm not sure how widespread eSIMs across countries.

What? So the iPhone is unusable in countries that have no esims offered? Or will this force operators in such countries to start offering esims?

Only the US models have no SIM slot but yes, US iPhones will not be usable without an esim.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

yreg wrote: post #123
rcarr wrote: post #65

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EU Law stipulates it's got to be USB-C by Autumn 2024. Will be interesting to see if they implement it next year or hold off again.

I won't be surprised if Apple removes the port completely instead.

Same, I think a magsafe only iPhone is very possible next year.

MagSafe would need an update to support high bandwidth data transfer but that seems feasible.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

kushan2020 wrote: post #146
least wrote: post #106

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It’s getting tiresome reading terrible takes from anti capitalists that not only attribute everything they view as negative as a product of capitalism, but also when those things are very obviously an improvement to the status quo. The alternatives are satellite phones, which on their own cost a lot of money and will realistically only be wielded by people who expect they might end up in an emergency situation rather…

No matter how you put it, paying a subscription fees to a private company to access basic emergency services is unethical. There is a reason 911 works even if you donot have a SIM card. I am not asking Apple to do any better, but this a place where government needs to step in and form some regulations.

> basic emergency services

If it was a basic emergency service, it would probably be accessible without a brand new $800 or more phone.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by rcarr »

mdasen wrote: post #142
rcarr wrote: post #26

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Have they even dropped the price? They're £649 for the base model in the UK but I'm not sure how much they were yesterday. I was expecting around £100 off last year but apparently not.

The iPhone 13 mini was £679 and the iPhone 13 was £779 and today it's £649 and £749. They've discounted it by £30. That might seem small, but the pound has lost 17% of its value over the past year (relative to the dollar). Last year you would have paid (in dollars) $937 or $1,075 for the iPhone 13 mini or iPhone 13. Today, you're paying $746 or $861 so they've discounted it by $191 or $214 (including the change in va…

This makes sense, great comment.

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by CharlesW »

canuckintime wrote: post #58

Dynamic Island looks neat (reminds me of webOS) BUT controls at the top of the screen still work poorly, especially on these bigger phones. I had a little hope when Apple introduced those controls in iOS 16 on the lower half of the lock screen but alas... I'm curious how it works in landscape orientation if at all. If there were a ‘iPhone 14 Pro mini’ that would be amazing

> Dynamic Island looks neat (reminds me of webOS) BUT controls at the top of the screen still work poorly, especially on these bigger phones.

I'd expect Reachability will allow for one-handed operation: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/reachability-iph145eb...

Re: Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Post by rcarr »

smileybarry wrote: post #138
rcarr wrote: post #16

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The "action" camera mode (basically gimbal replacement) looked pretty good if you were a film maker/Youtuber. And "multiple eSims" might be useful if you're a traveller/digital nomad as you were previously limited to two. But yeah, other than that it did seem a bit sparse on new features this year. Hopefully next years will be a big one to make up for it?

I still haven’t looked into it much but IIRC iPhone 12 & iPhone 13 could already save multiple eSIMs, while 13 could activate 2 at the same time. I think it was up to 8 (or 10) saved eSIMs?

If this is true it may sway me to getting an iPhone 13, I want to do some travelling in the future so being able to have multiple e-sims saved would be beneficial. I thought that it seemed a bit odd that you could only have two of something that was completely digital but makes much more sense if it's only two active SIMs at once.
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