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Apple Announces iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus

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Wow do these really ship with last year’s A15 chip? Why would you buy them over iPhone 13?

A15 is actually pretty insane, it’s the same core as M2, it’s pretty fast. GPU is amazing too, as is the ISP and everything else.

And that graph of an A11 A16 and “competing CPUs” is still true (showing A11 lightly ahead of the competition, while A16 being like 15% better than it) - apple is ridiculously ahead of the pack in CPU design.

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13 mini would sound like a bargain!

Have they even dropped the price? They're £649 for the base model in the UK but I'm not sure how much they were yesterday. I was expecting around £100 off last year but apparently not.

The iPhone 13 mini was £679 and the iPhone 13 was £779 and today it's £649 and £749. They've discounted it by £30. That might seem small, but the pound has lost 17% of its value over the past year (relative to the dollar). Last year you would have paid (in dollars) $937 or $1,075 for the iPhone 13 mini or iPhone 13. Today, you're paying $746 or $861 so they've discounted it by $191 or $214 (including the change in value of the pound) which is a pretty substantial discount.

You can see this in the new pricing too. The iPhone 13 was £779, but the iPhone 14 is £849. That's an increase of £70 (9%) in pounds, but a drop of $99 (9%) in dollars. Presumably, Apple is willing to eat a bit of exchange-rate fluctuations. Likewise, the iPhone 13 Pro was £949, but the iPhone 14 Pro is £1,099 - an increase of £150 (16%), but a decrease of $46 (3%) in dollars.

Before someone says "Apple is always overcharging UK customers - $1075 for an iPhone 13 compared to $800 in the US," it's important to note that different countries have very different regulations, fees, import tariffs, and taxes. I believe VAT in the UK is 20%.

Yes, they have dropped the price. It doesn't seem like much of a drop because most of the price decrease is in the fact that the pound has lost so much value. It's £100 cheaper than the iPhone 14 (which is what you were expecting), but it's only £30 cheaper than the iPhone 13 was a day ago (presumably in large part due to the fact that the pound is worth so much less now than a year ago).

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Of course they announce it today - I finally upgraded my iPhone X to a 13 Pro Max over the weekend :)

The biggest thing you missed was the small discount on the 13 that’ll start going around today.

Nope - that's the reason I bought when I did. I was aware that it was very likely that the 14 would be announced this week, I was only expressing my amusement.

I upgraded through AT&T, who gave me a $700 trade-in on my iPhone X. I also snagged an additional discount on my new iPhone 13 Pro Max because I was OK with an unpopular color ("bamboo"), so my total cost ended up being around $200.

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Of course they announce it today - I finally upgraded my iPhone X to a 13 Pro Max over the weekend :)

You have 14 days to return it.

Nah. My net cost is only $200, and I'll probably keep it for 3-5 years like I did my X. I really only wanted the larger, brighter screen and much better battery life.

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Wow do these really ship with last year’s A15 chip? Why would you buy them over iPhone 13?

These have much better cameras, crash detection and some more improvements over iPhone 13 Pro (the chip is from the 13 Pro, not from the 13).

> These have much better cameras

They say that literally every year and I never notice.

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It’s getting tiresome reading terrible takes from anti capitalists that not only attribute everything they view as negative as a product of capitalism, but also when those things are very obviously an improvement to the status quo. The alternatives are satellite phones, which on their own cost a lot of money and will realistically only be wielded by people who expect they might end up in an emergency situation rather…

No matter how you put it, paying a subscription fees to a private company to access basic emergency services is unethical.

There is a reason 911 works even if you donot have a SIM card.

I am not asking Apple to do any better, but this a place where government needs to step in and form some regulations.

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People who travel frequently, does the lack of physical SIM card concern you? I'm not sure how widespread eSIMs across countries.

Yes, absolutely a deal breaker... but I carry two phones b/c I do not trust Verizon after being disconnected overseas. Their international plan requires you to re-connect to a US-based cell tower in order to "reactivate" the international plan if it has been disconnected. I am not aware of any service that allows me to buy an e-sim for any given random country airport and activate it before I reach the exit. edit: fo…

Airalo works great for the 'load an esim while in the airport' use case. US Mobile has a similar offering but I haven't tried it out yet.

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Get a degree in Aerodynamics and then successfully build and launch a rocket and satellite. Once you're done with those small potatoes, code an app so that everyone can connect to the satellite from their phone. Once that's done feel free to offer your lifesaving satellite service to the world for free, if of course after all the time, effort, and money you've invested you still think that nobody should pay you for your work.

Like the only fair alternative here that I can see is that governments give tax breaks to Apple to compensate for the essential service that is provided for free. Of course, you'll then get a bunch of Android users moaning that they don't have access and demanding that it's open sourced.

At the end of the day, someone, somewhere, has to pay for the monumental effort that goes into something like this.

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> connect to a US-based cell tower in order to "reactivate" the international plan if it has been disconnected > if you change countries or have to make an additional unplanned hop, VZ does not work in that scenario either Just so I understand you, Verizon has an international plan where you have to touch base back in the States every time you go to some other country, before it will work in the next country? I must…

No misunderstanding... been affected twice with EU trips that included hops to MENA. And if you are somehow disconnected (due to an error on their end, which are quite frequent) it can not re-establish functionality without accessing a US-based cell tower. After the second or third time it happened, I just started carrying a second phone to put in a local SIM. I ended up saving a ton of money in data charges too.

It's even dumber than that! It used to "just work" when you landed in another country and tried to pull a single byte of data. But now you're required to call VZ and inform them of your trip beforehand. To make matters worse, not all of their reps know this and will tell you that isn't the case and leave you stranded with no coverage. I'm generally happy with VZ over the years but this is just pathetic.

A rep once explained this to me as "innovation". Cool.

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The SOS and location tracking via satellite is a pretty neat feature. Free for the first 2 years - no details on pricing after that.

I really hope they still allow you to use it even if you haven't paid the subscription. It's a tool for emergencies so by definition you need it only when you don't expect to need it. It would be a shame to lock people out from something that could have saved their life just because they haven't paid the $x.99 per year service. In theory they could always back-charge users who are not subscribed but even then that co…

would be nice, but garmin inReach is very specific in their wording to make sure you know that if you don't have an active subscription, your SOS call will NOT work. Subscription is the standard now so doubt apple would do differently. I was genuinely surprised by the 2 years free though. Garmin inReach mini is a $350 device with 0 free function out of the box without the subscription
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