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Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by riversflow »

chrisseaton wrote: post #84
tenacious_tuna wrote: post #75

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that's a lot of weight to add for backpacking. every bit counts when you're going 20 miles up and down hills.

If I'm doing some kind of outdoor activity, then I'm likely already carrying batteries for other things. I don't think it's the huge barrier most people here think it is. I guess if you're into ultra-light then yeah maybe it isn't the target market for you - but then why would you be carrying a huge watch in the first place rather than something light?

I mean, I tend to agree. FWIW, most people who do UL Backpacking use a smartphone for maps and a UL battery. I've taken my Apple Watch backpacking with me before, and keeping it charged wasn't a thing. Just one extra (short) cable to bring, I'd put it on the battery during dinner and camp setup.

The thing is though, I've only found it really useful if I'm doing stiff ascents and am not comfortable with my training. Mostly just to keep an eye on my heartrate, if my training/preparations are adequate for my trip, I don't use it at all.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by heavymark »

teolandon wrote: post #28
cmcmcm wrote: post #10

Still no Apple Watch for ladies... They're all enormous!

Can ladies not wear big watches?

Most ladies, and many men like myself have small wrists, so the "small" apple watch is already quite large compared to normal watches for most woman or men with small wrists. The "large" would over hang on many of those people, so you can only imagine how a 49mm would fit for most woman and people with thin wrists.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by mikestew »

saberience wrote: post #56
dwighttk wrote: post #22

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18 hours is all day… 36 is long

It really annoys me to have to charge my Apple Watch every day, especially because I want/need it for both sleep tracking and exercise tracking. If I use it for sleeping it invariably runs out of bettery during the night, then in the morning when I want to work out I have to charge it before the gym, it's just frustrating. I would LOVE three days of charge.

This is one of the main reasons I keep a Garmin for running (that, and real buttons on the Garmin, which Apple Watch Ultra might fix). I wear the Apple Watch at night, and if I didn't remember to throw it on the charger for a bit after waking up, well, no run for you because there's not enough battery. I mean, between those two activities (sleep tracking and running), I was constantly managing the battery charging because the damned thing won't last through a day.

That, and I was really doubtful that the Apple product would 100%-for-sure-no-excuses make it through a marathon, and I'm fast enough to qualify for Boston. No way it would have made it through the five hour trail marathon I ran a few weeks ago.

So I really, really want the Apple Watch Ultra just so I can pare down to one watch. But the Garmin 945 isn't even a year old, so we'll see what Apple has to offer next year.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by isitmadeofglass »

pcj-github wrote: post #53

They used the word "extreme" 15 times, sigh. I didn't realize wakeboarding was an "extreme" water sport. TIL.

Sigh, Yes, wakeboarding is an extreme sport. Just because you personally might feel that it’s “not extreme enough” doesn’t change that fact. The category of extreme sports is about risks of serious injury or death, not about how “Rad” people perceive them to be.

> Contusions, abrasions, strains, sprains, low back pain and rib fractures are common injuries experienced in wakeboarding.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by heavymark »

nluken wrote: post #88
arberx wrote: post #21

Apple is missing the mark in this segment. Their competitors: Garmin, coros all offer weeks of battery life with tradeoffs people in this segment happily make. I get 20 days of battery life on my coros pace 2. Charging a apple watch every night or two would not be acceptable.

Agreed. I'm a competitive runner and nobody in that community is showing up to interval workouts with an Apple watch. I don't see this watch changing that, especially when better battery life and tracking (which is all the road/track running segment really cares about) can be had at a fraction of the cost with Garmin or Coros. The ultra/hiking community will run into problems with the 36 hour battery life, especially…

Remember will be 60 hours in low power mode, and that seems to only disable things such as always on (which I always disable with hikes as drastically improves battery life and theater mode), and won't auto detect workout, but one can easily just set to hike or what not when starting the workout manually. 60 hours for all the benefits of the watch seems impressive. The 49mm size however will be the bigger issue presumably for most woman and men with small wrists, since the small was already large for that demographic.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by heavymark »

khazhoux wrote: post #47
teolandon wrote: post #28

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Can ladies not wear big watches?

Even in the Apple keynote demo videos, one of the female models had a tiny wrist with a giant watch on it. Not the most stylish look. As a small-wristed male, I would also love a thin watch, without a lot of the sensors.

Yes, I'd be happy with even just the the extra side button to start workouts and such, since whenever I put on the homescreen it mistakenly gets started when crossing my arms or such and gets pressed. I imagine that may eventually come to the regular models.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by isitmadeofglass »

highwaylights wrote: post #25
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #13

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It's not about using the futures - it's about imagining a life in which you use those features.

onlyrealcuzzo gets it. The pitch is basically: Buy Apple products. You might not be a pro photographer, but you could be an Instagram legend. You will be an Instagram legend. Think of the likes. THINK OF THE FAME. How could it not happen with a device of this quality? Look at the photos. Look how gorgeous they are! Just drop $10k on an Apple load-out and don't think too much about it. It's not like it matters. You'll…

Why do people get so but hurt about Apple products? Yes vilify they for putting a good camera in their phones. It’s obvious an evil manipulating ploy, and the customers who buy it are all stupid pretentious morons who are chasing after fame!! And not you know, just regular people who’d appreciate a better camera in their next phone upgrade.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by nhance »

babypuncher wrote: post #41
peppertree wrote: post #8

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It cracks me up when people say Apple is evil go with Samsung. Samsung heir literally went to jail for bribing the Korean president, and that was just tip of the iceberg.

I don't think nhance was trying to say that Apple is evil, they are expressing a desire not to get sucked into Apple's ecosystem. Samsung's ecosystem lacks the breadth of Apple's and isn't nearly as good at creating vendor lock-in.

Correct. Apple products work well together, but also make it a huge pain in the ass if you don't buy everything from them. The kids have apple products and we can't manage them effectively because we don't have apple devices. This provides a strong disincentive to want to give them any more money.

Samsung was only mentioned because are there any other real competitors to a full smart watch?

Garmin will likely keep me because running gps for 10+ hours at a shot is important. A full smart watch is far less of a priority.

(On Sunday I ran for roughly 10.5 hours, GPS active the entire time. When I finished, I had 33% of my battery left.)

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by nradov »

chrisseaton wrote: post #61
krisdol wrote: post #34

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Agreed. They say this is for explorers and adventure, but it seems like I’d be out of charge after the first segment of a backpacking trip. Need a map of an area for the return or the next day? Good luck.

Carry a small battery pack.

The latest Garmin devices have much longer battery life with equivalent functionality, and can extend battery life with solar charging.

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/854515

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