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Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by icpmacdo »

kapsel wrote: post #12

I love my AirPod Pros, but I hate how unreliable charging in the case is. The AirPods will often think they are out of the case, when they are, and discharge themselves, while connected to my phone/laptop. Then they will re-charge, emptying the battery in the case, so I will end up with a dead pair of AirPods after a couple of days in the pocket, not using them. I guess their tolerances are too tight, hopefully somet…

This is my exact same experience with the AirPod Pros, its extremely irritating

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by ramesh31 »

Why don't we have Wi-Fi headphones? The only thing anyone can agree on about Bluetooth is that it absolutely sucks. You'd think Apple would be pushing this.

I should be able to buy a pair of headphones with built in streaming capability and be able to cast from HomePod or my phone with near gigabit bandwidth over Wi-Fi 6, and have zero concerns about range anywhere in my home.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by smoldesu »

hardwaregeek wrote: post #26

It's wild how much money Apple has made from Bluetooth headphones that don't suck. That's literally it. They're portable, pair easily and (somewhat) work with multiple devices. I have top of the line Bose Bluetooth headphones that still, in 2022, have issues with multiple devices. I can't count how many times I've started playing music on my iPhone only to realize that the headphones think my laptop is playing, so th…

> Why the hell can't you just tell the headphones to play from the phone and keep the laptop connected?

This is something that baffled me on Windows and MacOS, but I don't seem to experience on Linux/Android/iOS. Windows was particularly "greedy"; whenever you'd turn on your headphones it would attempt to steal the connection away (even booting other multipoint connections off). MacOS is slightly more graceful, but still hiccups when it initializes a new sound source and (for some godawful reason) launches iTunes for me. Thanks Apple.

On my FireTV and Linux desktop/laptop, they seem to have lazy-negotiation enabled by default. Turned-on devices will connect and acknowledge one another, but won't switch audio sources until the other device starts playing audio. I really think this ought to be the standard for all Bluetooth audio stacks.

(Note: this is a relatively recent development on the Linux side of things. Before PipeWire, it's Bluetooth audio stack was worse than Windows.)

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by mimsee »

msoad wrote: post #28
mcculley wrote: post #4

How do “computational algorithms” differ from other kinds of algorithms employed in headphones?

I noticed they said "the Watch scans for crash events 3,000 times a second" and then "The always-on display refreshes at 1 hertz"... So it's "x times per second" if it's good and "y hertz" if it's bad lol

I don't think 1 hertz is bad. It's good so it doesn't use much battery refreshing an always-on lock screen that changes relatively infrequently.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by tommit »

afterburner wrote: post #25
tommit wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what I'm wondering. It's impossible to do anything while on a call without the other side complaining that it sounds like I'm banging cutlery on my pots.

That sounds like every vocal-tuned mic ever. Someone's kids could be two rooms away and barely audible to them, but over the mic they are amplified screams. Kitchen stuff, forget about it.

I don't know much about it so let me ask: is this primarily a software or hardware "issue"? I feel like it wasn't really an issue before the Pro's, and I've been using AirPods since 2016. I may just be misremembering things though.

I totally get it, too. When I'm on call with someone and they do kitchen stuff or whatever, I quite literally feel an erratic rage building up and just want to hang up immediately. It sounds so infuriatingly loud, even though the other side may have only put down a glass on the counter or something. It's really bad imo. If this somehow gets fixed, I'll buy a pair at an instant.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by sbarre »

kapsel wrote: post #12

I love my AirPod Pros, but I hate how unreliable charging in the case is. The AirPods will often think they are out of the case, when they are, and discharge themselves, while connected to my phone/laptop. Then they will re-charge, emptying the battery in the case, so I will end up with a dead pair of AirPods after a couple of days in the pocket, not using them. I guess their tolerances are too tight, hopefully somet…

As others have also said, I've never had this happen.. You should look into a warranty replacement.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

joshstrange wrote: post #20
discobot2 wrote: post #5

nothing on improving the mic and moving away from bluetooth =(

> A redesigned inward-facing microphone works with voice enhancement algorithms to better recognize and articulate your voice, so it sounds more natural when you’re on phone and video calls. Also where are you getting "moving away from bluetooth"? That was a rumor (that they might move to their U1 tech for better audio quality) but they didn't mention that in the presentation nor is it mentioned on their site.

> sounds more natural

Well that’s a problem nobody had.

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by dymk »

msoad wrote: post #28
mcculley wrote: post #4

How do “computational algorithms” differ from other kinds of algorithms employed in headphones?

I noticed they said "the Watch scans for crash events 3,000 times a second" and then "The always-on display refreshes at 1 hertz"... So it's "x times per second" if it's good and "y hertz" if it's bad lol

Or the copy editor didn't want to sound too repetitive

Re: AirPods Pro (2nd Generation)

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Post by entropie »

emadabdulrahim wrote: post #40
hardwaregeek wrote: post #26

It's wild how much money Apple has made from Bluetooth headphones that don't suck. That's literally it. They're portable, pair easily and (somewhat) work with multiple devices. I have top of the line Bose Bluetooth headphones that still, in 2022, have issues with multiple devices. I can't count how many times I've started playing music on my iPhone only to realize that the headphones think my laptop is playing, so th…

Yup. Unfortunately every other Bluetooth headphones suck when it comes to connectivity and stable playing. Been using Airpods Max for a year and never had a connection issue.

I had no issues with 3 phones and my notebook with my like two years old sony WF-1000XM3.
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