Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent

Post by sergefaguet » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 6:59 PM UTC

noasaservice wrote: post #106

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #98

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> If you install recording software, you're liable for what it records not if it's recording without your consent > Seriously, this thread is "I installed recording software and it worked on things I didn't think it would. a poor attempt to reframe the thread, which is actually about a company monitoring confidential meetings without consent if affirmative consent is such a non-issue here, why couldn't the company ge…

TBH, the pro-business blatantly illegal hot takes here on HN are expected. Because some company figured out a 'hack' to make more money, somehow turns from illegal to "legal". And so many users here will defend that. In this case, it's violating interstate wiretapping laws and state-based 2 party consent laws. But.. they just squint hard and go "Hey we can violate the law and make MORE money". Uber is exactly that. S…

Post by extra88 » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 7:00 PM UTC

bombcar wrote: post #23

The big names provide recording and transcription now - Zoom has it, Teams has it (Teams apparently does it realtime and live and it's not bad, great for the deaf!). I suppose those are part of paid plans, and they trigger the "your shit is being recorded, dude." warnings.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 7:19 PM UTC

karanmg wrote: post #112

> Are there other, more privacy oriented transcription services anyone can recommend? Yes. Try https://aliceapp.ai , the iOS app's in the AppStore: https://aliceapp.ai/app . I created this specifically to be as privacy conscious as possible. There's a small, but strong team of engineers behind this and I'm the primary investor. It's not perfect, but works pretty well, with many relying on it everyday. From the FAQs:…

Post by klyrs » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 7:40 PM UTC

jwandborg wrote: post #66

klyrs wrote: post #28

Depending on where you live, that might violate wiretapping laws. Most of North America requires at least one party consent.

It could also not count as wiretapping, since it's about transcription, not about audio recordings. If the transcription service's presence in the call isn't hidden from other participants, is it still wiretapping?

Post by karanmg » Wed, Sep 07, 2022, 7:55 PM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #126

karanmg wrote: post #120

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Thank you. It is up to us to do something about making our software more privacy conscious. And management/leaders/founders have to put up the money to support it. This project is also an experiment to see if its possible to build a "successful" app without user behavior tracking, without endless AB testing.. and so far it seems totally possible.

I forgot to add that while I'm not an iPhone user (so can't test if it does this already) but if you can set it up to record phone calls it would be an absolute godsend for journalistic purposes.