“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
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Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#2From the commit msg:
At this point I consider being permission-less the limiting factor: if broad "read/modify data" permission is to be used, than there is not much point for an MV3 version over MV2, just use the MV2 version if you want to benefit all the features which can't be implemented without broad "read/modify data" permission.
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#3How many people use adblockers? Is there any chance manifest v3 will lead to enough users abandoning Googles Chrome to build a community around an open alternative, like we did when we abandoned IE for Firefox all those years ago?
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#4If you're still using Chrome now is the time to switch to Firefox. This is an interesting experiment but the only solution is to stop using Chrome.
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#5How many people use adblockers? Is there any chance manifest v3 will lead to enough users abandoning Googles Chrome to build a community around an open alternative, like we did when we abandoned IE for Firefox all those years ago?
Adblockers are an existential threat to Google. If any appreciable percentage of the population started using a browser that allowed adblockers, Google (and Facebook, and Twitter, and Reddit, and...) would do everything within their power to block that browser from all the web properties they control (this is not an exaggeration: everything within their power, because the alternative is the death of their entire business model and the end of the company). Even if you can play cat-and-mouse games to get around the adblocker-blocking, the inconvenience of that alone would be enough to shift most non-power-users back onto Chrome.
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#6I think uBlock Origin providing a manifest-v3 compatible extension would be a net negative for the community. As it will help more people accept the status-quo and accept a mediocre state of ad blocking, instead of switching to Firefox
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#7this is actually a clever way of hurting Google
if gorhill simply refused to release UBO for manifest V3 then someone would, and release something similar without the negative branding
(plus eyeo crapware "ad blocking" extensions would gain market share)
this way the users are being reminded that on Google's platform you're getting an inferior blocker
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#8How many people use adblockers? Is there any chance manifest v3 will lead to enough users abandoning Googles Chrome to build a community around an open alternative, like we did when we abandoned IE for Firefox all those years ago?
The question is: how many people will miss manifest v2 options.
I'm using adblocker written by myself. It's pretty primitive, it uses declarative blocking by URLs and optionally inserts some CSS and JS to selected websites. So far I was able to solve all my ads issues with this approach.
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#9How many people use adblockers? Is there any chance manifest v3 will lead to enough users abandoning Googles Chrome to build a community around an open alternative, like we did when we abandoned IE for Firefox all those years ago?
> How many people use adblockers?
About 43 %, according to [1].
> Is there any chance manifest v3 will lead to enough users abandoning Googles Chrome […]
No. Google Chrome is pretty much in the same position as Internet Explorer used to be. It's the default browser in the most popular mobile OS and the first thing people install on their PC (or get it installed by someone else). Mozilla can barely play catch-up with all the complex web standards pushed by Goog&co., to say nothing about adding killer features that could bring enough users back from Chrome.
Modern web browsers are rapidly approaching the YouTube territory. That is, becoming a technology so complex that only a multibillion-dollar conglomerate can really maintain it without losing money.
Re: “UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build for Manifest V3
#10this is actually a clever way of hurting Google if gorhill simply refused to release UBO for manifest V3 then someone would, and release something similar without the negative branding (plus eyeo crapware "ad blocking" extensions would gain market share) this way the users are being reminded that on Google's platform you're getting an inferior blocker
Great point! Initially I thought it would be wrong to kowtow to Google by releasing a MV3-compliant version, but I think you’re more correct.