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Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by chrisseaton »

krisdol wrote: post #34
arberx wrote: post #21

Apple is missing the mark in this segment. Their competitors: Garmin, coros all offer weeks of battery life with tradeoffs people in this segment happily make. I get 20 days of battery life on my coros pace 2. Charging a apple watch every night or two would not be acceptable.

Agreed. They say this is for explorers and adventure, but it seems like I’d be out of charge after the first segment of a backpacking trip. Need a map of an area for the return or the next day? Good luck.

Carry a small battery pack.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

systemvoltage wrote: post #38
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Size is probably driven by the size of the electronics, size of batteries, and size of screen. You could probably get a usable system on a smaller screen, but the rest of it, I suspect, is already up against the limits of what we can manufacture today.

There is a general trend of huge watches though outside of these concerns. Omega seamaster used to be available in 36mm. No more. Even the larger ones went from 40mm to 41mm, and last year they upped it to 42mm.

Sure, and I would very much prefer that we had more small watches (and phones, while we're commiserating). I'm just questioning whether a thing recognizable as an Apple Watch can be any smaller than it is today.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by tsfenwick »

aeharding wrote: post #5

Is the Apple watch air integrated (for scuba)? Edit: Nope... found on https://www.oceanicworldwide.com/faqs/ Q: I have a wireless transmitter, can I connect it with the Oceanic+ app? A: At the moment this option is not currently available.

I imagine if it was they would have said so with how much of these product launches are buzzword heavy. I imagine their next version would have air integration support.

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Post by entropie »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #46
entropie wrote: post #30

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I guess the display and colors are way better on the apple watch. Retina display with 2k nits. I guess it looks awesome. I prefer my garmin too. I charge it like two times a month and my gps fixes very fast and is very accurate

I prefer my Axiom. The day they need a charge.. means I was in a total darkness for a couple of months. /s but only so slightly

Never heard of that. https://www.axiomwatches.fr/en/

This? Very informative website. Also I thought we talk about smart watches with GPS. Like 50 years ago we already had high precision mechanical watches that you dont need to charge ever...

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by speedgoose »

It's strange that they don't offer good outdoor maps. In the announcement video, they show how to find your way from your gps track displayed on a black background. It's not very helpful.

I use a third party application, WorkOutDoors, to get vectorial outdoor maps from OSM data on the Apple Watch Series 3. So it should be possible to offer maps by default on the new watch ultra that makes you an adventurer.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by slg »

muppetman wrote: post #58
slg wrote: post #48

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What is the value of having 18 days of battery on a device like this? To me there are diminishing returns pretty quickly when it comes to battery life. I agree, there is a lot of value if you are able to hit 72-96 hours and you can go away for a weekend without worrying about charging, but 18 days seems like a waste. Are people really regularly away from their chargers for that long? At that point, I would much rathe…

The value is you can leave it on your wrist without having to take it off all the time to charge it. Like a normal watch. It's one less thing to have to have go flat on you because you forgot to charge it the night before. One less thing to be a slave to charging.

> It's one less thing to have to have go flat on you because you forgot to charge it the night before.

But you don't need 18 days for that. Like I said, I understand wanting a few days. Why do you need a few weeks? It seems like at that point it becomes even more likely that you would forget to charge because it never becomes a routine.

Re: Apple Introduces Apple Watch Ultra

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Post by dmitrygr »

liminalsunset wrote: post #57
sylvainkalache wrote: post #12

What I am the most excited about is the dive computer feature! "along with recreational scuba diving to 40 meters with the new Oceanic+ app." I was looking at $1,000 Garmin watches and was really not excited at buying one.

I'm more concerned about the safety aspects of using an app running on a consumer watch for this kind of purpose. We've all seen the "water resistance is not a permanent condition...limited warranty does not cover water damage" warning before. Can a user of this app easily determine whether the waterproofing of the watch has been compromised, perhaps invisibly? After all, most Apple products rely on double sided adhe…

My dive computer (mares) is also a consumer device. Why would Apple Watch be worse ?

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Post by alphakilo »

drewg123 wrote: post #16

How can they call 36 hours of battery life "long"? The $799 version Garmin Fenix 7 solar (which they seem to be targeting) has an 18-22 days of battery life.

I definitely agree with you. Even my Garmin Phoenix 5x plus will last multiple days with GPS usage for Backcountry camping. Another factor I worry about is the durability of the screen. Although you should always travel with backup Maps nobody wants to lose their primary navigation tool because a touch screen is nicer than Sapphire glass displays.

That said the Apple watch is a nicer experience than the Phoenix which I don't tend to take out of the house too often outside of activities now. Indeed the Apple watch is claiming to be usable for recreational scuba for which the Phoenix is not and you would need to use an alternative Garmin watch

Perhaps the next iteration of the ultra watch will have features to extend battery life beyond the 60 hours in low battery mode it claims and hopefully towards 100 hours (14 hours * 7 days) of usage on low battery

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Post by pharmakom »

drewg123 wrote: post #45
chrisBob wrote: post #29

As a casual runner that does some track workouts, the extra button is my favorite feature of this new watch. The built in stopwatch app with screen buttons is miserable for timing workouts. Now I just need to wait a few years for the extra button to trickle down to something that my family agrees is in budget.

Try a Garmin. Even the low end ones have way, way more battery life and lots of buttons.

Garmin UI sucks, although I still picked one over Apple Watch due to the price point.
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