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Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #39
arthurcolle wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ligatures are amazing, I don't understand why anyone would like ascii "compound versions" of a set of symbols when there are thousands if not many hundreds of thousands of great symbols that were used in older typographic settings that are available for usage.

Ligatures obscure the underlying text, which is a problem when you actually edit it. It is okay to have light ligatures where the original text is retained but refined in style but many fonts with ligatures do too much [1], like rendering `!==` as two lines and a slashed stroke in between (come on, who on earth did think this is a good idea???). I would rather have a Unicode symbol support and automatic symbol substi…

> come on, who on earth did think this is a good idea???

Me. It’s the 21th century. It’s bad enough I have to use monospaced fonts because people can’t properly tabulate. I will at least have proper symbols rather than weird combination of glyphes.

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Post by lifthrasiir »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #51
lifthrasiir wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ligatures obscure the underlying text, which is a problem when you actually edit it. It is okay to have light ligatures where the original text is retained but refined in style but many fonts with ligatures do too much [1], like rendering `!==` as two lines and a slashed stroke in between (come on, who on earth did think this is a good idea???). I would rather have a Unicode symbol support and automatic symbol substi…

> come on, who on earth did think this is a good idea??? Me. It’s the 21th century. It’s bad enough I have to use monospaced fonts because people can’t properly tabulate. I will at least have proper symbols rather than weird combination of glyphes.

I too want proper symbols, but not ASCII approximations disguised by inconsistent ligatures.

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Post by WastingMyTime89 »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #52
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> come on, who on earth did think this is a good idea??? Me. It’s the 21th century. It’s bad enough I have to use monospaced fonts because people can’t properly tabulate. I will at least have proper symbols rather than weird combination of glyphes.

I too want proper symbols, but not ASCII approximations disguised by inconsistent ligatures.

Writing my previous comment, it suddenly downed on me that I could actually be using a proportional font with ligatures and things would look even better. I need to try.

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

#54

Post by adrusi »

zenlot wrote: post #4

Not related to this awesome font, but is it just me who doesn't like fonts ligatures? I'd much rather see !=, than crossed =.

In principle I agree that there's issues with ligature fonts, but I tried using one for a few months a while back and found that in practice I didn't find myself having to think more about what the underlying text actually was, and it was occasionally delightful to look at the pretty symbols.

On the whole I think they're nice.

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Post by slim »

nerdponx wrote: post #30
CharlesW wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like a fairly comprehensive answer: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/fonts-faq/part2/ "First, the short answer in the USA: Typefaces are not copyrightable; bitmapped fonts are not copyrightable, but scalable fonts are copyrightable. Authorities for these conclusions follow."

An IP lawyer once explained to me that "fonts" are copyrightable because they are technically computer programs, and computer programs are copyrightable. I actually find it odd that "typefaces" are not copyrightable, but I think that's more of an historical quirk than some wise feature of the legal system.

  that's more of an historical quirk
perfumes and recipes are not copyrightable either. It's because theses issues have been setteled in court in better times before media got in bed with politicians and lobbied til they got their monopoly

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Post by itronitron »

IdreesInc wrote: post #23

Creator here, thanks for all the support for this objectively terrible programming font! Still working on some issues with windows not playing nicely with bold weights so be sure to watch the repository ( https://github.com/IdreesInc/Monocraft ) or follow me on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/IdreesInc ) for updates.

I have always thought that the font used in Minecraft is just a standard available font, like System or Dialog. Is that incorrect?

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

#57

Post by kleiba »

IdreesInc wrote: post #23

Creator here, thanks for all the support for this objectively terrible programming font! Still working on some issues with windows not playing nicely with bold weights so be sure to watch the repository ( https://github.com/IdreesInc/Monocraft ) or follow me on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/IdreesInc ) for updates.

Nice idea, but how do you get around the potential copyright infringement?

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

#58

Post by echelon »

huydotnet wrote: post #17

I'm currently playing Nethack with this font [1], OMG it's just so cool, it makes the game looks good even without using curses mode. [1]: https://i.imgur.com/wsWnMq0.png

Wow, Imgur has fallen far. The image is so compressed and full of artifacts that I can't read any of it.

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Post by haunter »

itronitron wrote: post #56
IdreesInc wrote: post #23

Creator here, thanks for all the support for this objectively terrible programming font! Still working on some issues with windows not playing nicely with bold weights so be sure to watch the repository ( https://github.com/IdreesInc/Monocraft ) or follow me on Twitter ( https://twitter.com/IdreesInc ) for updates.

I have always thought that the font used in Minecraft is just a standard available font, like System or Dialog. Is that incorrect?

GNU Unifont afaik

Re: Monocraft: A programming font based on the typeface used in Minecraft

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Post by Sander_Marechal »

echelon wrote: post #58
huydotnet wrote: post #17

I'm currently playing Nethack with this font [1], OMG it's just so cool, it makes the game looks good even without using curses mode. [1]: https://i.imgur.com/wsWnMq0.png

Wow, Imgur has fallen far. The image is so compressed and full of artifacts that I can't read any of it.

Imgur has been quite shit for some time now, especially on mobile.
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