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We Are Changing the License for Akka

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Re: We Are Changing the License for Akka

#41
post #4

2000 USD per core per year. https://www.lightbend.com/akka

$2000 USD for companies earning more than $25M USD Revenue per year. However, it's quite telling that the new blogpost discusses the new pricing but never actually shares the pricing, but only shares the condition for when it's free (as in gratis). Do lightbend themselves think its expensive?

If you need to know the price then I doubt you are Akka's target customer.

Re: We Are Changing the License for Akka

#42

It seems like Lightbend have decided themselves to redefine what "Open Source" means for them, a slight warning sign of whats to come. > Sadly, open source is prone to the infamous “Tragedy of the commons”, [...] This situation is not sustainable and one in which everyone eventually loses. > So what does sustainable open source look like? I believe it’s where everyone—users and developers—contributes and are in it to…

I think they clearly state that the fresh versions are not open source, they are "source available".

After 3 years since release the code automatically gets relicensed under Apache 2.0 and becomes open source. This is a nice provision that prevents the code from being completely lost if the company loses interest in it.

Re: We Are Changing the License for Akka

#43
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But if you decide to open source something, keep your promises, no matter what. Presumably all older versions of the software that were Apache licensed remain so. They are switching to BSL (closed, but source available and each revision switches to Apache licensed 3 years later) going forward. I don't see how this is worse than keeping everything closed source from the start, which is your suggestion? Shouldn't we…

No, because it’s a bait and switch. They attracted a bunch of people to use and contribute to their software because it’s open source. Almost all of them do not have the capacity to maintain their own individual fork of the software. It’s like if you decided to carpool with someone and halfway through they parked the car at the side of the road and switch into another car, leaving you with the original one. I mean, h…

Anybody using a current version or older under an Apache license can continue to do so, as far as I can tell.

Nobody using a free version of any software should expect some benelovent 3rd party to continue fixing bugs and making improvements for free, even if you enjoyed that privilege before.

Re: We Are Changing the License for Akka

#44
post #42

It seems like Lightbend have decided themselves to redefine what "Open Source" means for them, a slight warning sign of whats to come. > Sadly, open source is prone to the infamous “Tragedy of the commons”, [...] This situation is not sustainable and one in which everyone eventually loses. > So what does sustainable open source look like? I believe it’s where everyone—users and developers—contributes and are in it to…

I think they clearly state that the fresh versions are not open source, they are "source available". After 3 years since release the code automatically gets relicensed under Apache 2.0 and becomes open source. This is a nice provision that prevents the code from being completely lost if the company loses interest in it.

They state that BSL + Apache re-license after 3 years is "open source". It's not, it's delayed open source if anything. But doing BSL is not open source, at least as what we know open source to be today.

Re: We Are Changing the License for Akka

#45
The commercial license is $2k per vCPU LMAO, aka an 8 core node would cost $16k annually to operate. This is about to be an absolute shit storm, don’t see how this will make a lick of financial sense for corporations to pay this.

Re: We Are Changing the License for Akka

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$2000 USD for companies earning more than $25M USD Revenue per year. However, it's quite telling that the new blogpost discusses the new pricing but never actually shares the pricing, but only shares the condition for when it's free (as in gratis). Do lightbend themselves think its expensive?

If you need to know the price then I doubt you are Akka's target customer.

What? Their target customer should be the one who has to pay, otherwise they are gonna focus on acquiring customers that won't pay? How does that make sense?

Re: We Are Changing the License for Akka

#49

> Sadly, open source is prone to the infamous “Tragedy of the commons”, which shows that we are prone to act in our self-interest, Like, when somebody releases something open source, then notice that they can actually make money out of it and they change the license at the last minute. Oh the hypocrisy. Seriously if you're bothered by people making money out of your product, keep it closed source, nothing wrong with…

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