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More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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It's absolutely possible that the bots drummed up public opinion. But regardless of what public opinion is or why it is what it is, it's also clear who the aggressor is.

>it's also clear who the aggressor is. let me guess. NATO?

Only inciter. After running middle East they are too scared to aggress themselves.

Fun fact, 75% of the world's population still trades with Russia .

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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I think you're missing the most likely possibility: 3. Russia is operating pro-Ukrainian bots to influence pro-Ukrainian people. The bots pretend to be pro-Ukrainian but then try to influence the public opinion in the ways that are useful to Russia.

Why is a scenario that needs the requires the most assumptions the most likely?

The scenarios 1 and 2 also require a lot of assumptions, you just take them for granted.

I don't agree that my scenario requires more assumptions that scenarios 1 and 2.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Here we go again. Finding the villain of the year. This year it is Putin, Trump last year, etc pushed by the media and its propaganda. Anything that goes against it like this paper is upsetting those who believe what the media says and does and doesn't question their views or stories either. It can spread from bots on either side and with that you need to question both views on who is spreading their propaganda to di…

2005, Modi was the villian and banned from US https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-narendra-modi-was-banned-fr... Followed by Saddam, then it was Assad, then it was Gaddafi Then it was little rocket man. 2019 it was Xi. 2020 it was Trump. 2022 it's Putin. I am taking bets on who the propaganda is going to nominate in 2023. Nominees are: Saudi Arabia MBS, Iran Ali Kamanei, Imran Khan, Modi (again), North Korea (again), So…

Maybe it’s because Putin’s army is committing genocide in Ukraine and it’s not propaganda and just the truth?.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Here we go again. Finding the villain of the year. This year it is Putin, Trump last year, etc pushed by the media and its propaganda. Anything that goes against it like this paper is upsetting those who believe what the media says and does and doesn't question their views or stories either. It can spread from bots on either side and with that you need to question both views on who is spreading their propaganda to di…

2005, Modi was the villian and banned from US https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-narendra-modi-was-banned-fr... Followed by Saddam, then it was Assad, then it was Gaddafi Then it was little rocket man. 2019 it was Xi. 2020 it was Trump. 2022 it's Putin. I am taking bets on who the propaganda is going to nominate in 2023. Nominees are: Saudi Arabia MBS, Iran Ali Kamanei, Imran Khan, Modi (again), North Korea (again), So…

Australian media has already been seething nonstop about the Solomons for months now. A certain switch was flicked in March and now they're very, very corrupt and antidemocratic: so much so that we require daily reminders.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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The bots drummed up the public opinion and the war. Wouldn't you think this is a possibility?

This would be funny if it wasn't causing so much death and misery. Putin has been riling his own people and the mentally vulnerable people in the west against the west for at least a decade.

A counter-reaction to that propaganda and manipulation shouldn't be a surprise. If anything, it's odd how long we just took it.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Why is this surprising or newsworthy? Putin is the villain.. straight up. Edit: thx for the drive-by downvote feedback, would appreciate if you'd engage directly if I'm missing something

I read the abstract but not the paper. If it's accurate, it is an incredibly surprising result. We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media for the purposes of HUMINT, propaganda, etc. If they only represent 7% of bots, that means that: 1. Another actor, possibly a nation-state, is putting even more resources than Russia is into shaping the narrative, 2. Russia isn't actually trying very hard m…

I think Russia doesn't care much about narrative war in Western countries, they are not going to "win" in that theater anyway. Their propaganda is more focused on their own citizens and third world/non-aligned nations. However, it serves certain political groups to exaggerate how much Russian propaganda there is in the West (in order to justify censorship).

As for who is spreading pro-Ukrainian propaganda, I would guess either Ukraine (most obvious motive) or USA or UK (have the intelligence agencies/know-how). Possibly also a countries like Saudi Arabia or Azerbaijan that benefit economically from the war?

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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I read the abstract but not the paper. If it's accurate, it is an incredibly surprising result. We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media for the purposes of HUMINT, propaganda, etc. If they only represent 7% of bots, that means that: 1. Another actor, possibly a nation-state, is putting even more resources than Russia is into shaping the narrative, 2. Russia isn't actually trying very hard m…

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/fl-op-viewpoint-aregood... "We're forever scarred by the Vietnam War, and the lies " https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cg... I wasn't born during the vietnam war but there was an article that I read recently on how the media deceived the public about deaths and "trust in american media was lost permanently" The propaganda in this war from all three sides is…

There is only one country that invaded a sovereign nation.

No amount of "propaganda" will remove that fact.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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The bots drummed up the public opinion and the war. Wouldn't you think this is a possibility?

Are you bot?

Change nickname please, because nobody from "true" Russians will not support you.

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