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More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Why is this surprising or newsworthy? Putin is the villain.. straight up. Edit: thx for the drive-by downvote feedback, would appreciate if you'd engage directly if I'm missing something

I read the abstract but not the paper. If it's accurate, it is an incredibly surprising result. We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media for the purposes of HUMINT, propaganda, etc. If they only represent 7% of bots, that means that: 1. Another actor, possibly a nation-state, is putting even more resources than Russia is into shaping the narrative, 2. Russia isn't actually trying very hard m…

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/fl-op-viewpoint-aregood...

"We're forever scarred by the Vietnam War, and the lies "

https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cg...

I wasn't born during the vietnam war but there was an article that I read recently on how the media deceived the public about deaths and "trust in american media was lost permanently"

The propaganda in this war from all three sides is exceedingly high. We will find out the US propaganda in 10 years or so.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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"The balanced category contained 3.04% of accounts, showing that accounts exhibiting mixed behaviour are present in the dataset."

This set of accounts is actually the most interesting to me. The Pro-either-side bots are going to be relatively easy to attribute, and if you are following the war closely you can have a very good guess as to which propaganda narratives they are going to magnify (and therefore predict their content).

The 3.04% accounts may be trying to build a online profile that is more "trustworthy" so that it can be used later, may be trying to counter disinformation (as opposed to "counter disinformation with disinformation" - which is almost always what it means when you hear politicians talk about it), or may be trying to do something subtle and specific. It's also much harder to attribute.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the abstract but not the paper. If it's accurate, it is an incredibly surprising result. We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media for the purposes of HUMINT, propaganda, etc. If they only represent 7% of bots, that means that: 1. Another actor, possibly a nation-state, is putting even more resources than Russia is into shaping the narrative, 2. Russia isn't actually trying very hard m…

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/fl-op-viewpoint-aregood... "We're forever scarred by the Vietnam War, and the lies " https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cg... I wasn't born during the vietnam war but there was an article that I read recently on how the media deceived the public about deaths and "trust in american media was lost permanently" The propaganda in this war from all three sides is…

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Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Why is this surprising or newsworthy? Putin is the villain.. straight up. Edit: thx for the drive-by downvote feedback, would appreciate if you'd engage directly if I'm missing something

Here we go again. Finding the villain of the year. This year it is Putin, Trump last year, etc pushed by the media and its propaganda.

Anything that goes against it like this paper is upsetting those who believe what the media says and does and doesn't question their views or stories either.

It can spread from bots on either side and with that you need to question both views on who is spreading their propaganda to distort reality to suit their target audience.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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The bots drummed up the public opinion and the war. Wouldn't you think this is a possibility?

It's absolutely possible that the bots drummed up public opinion. But regardless of what public opinion is or why it is what it is, it's also clear who the aggressor is.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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The bots drummed up the public opinion and the war. Wouldn't you think this is a possibility?

The bots didn't drum up the war - not if by "drum up" you mean "caused the population to demand war". Putin drummed up this war.

Re: More than 90% of the bots are Pro-Ukrainian, with fewer than 7% pro-Russian

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Why is this surprising or newsworthy? Putin is the villain.. straight up. Edit: thx for the drive-by downvote feedback, would appreciate if you'd engage directly if I'm missing something

I read the abstract but not the paper. If it's accurate, it is an incredibly surprising result. We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media for the purposes of HUMINT, propaganda, etc. If they only represent 7% of bots, that means that: 1. Another actor, possibly a nation-state, is putting even more resources than Russia is into shaping the narrative, 2. Russia isn't actually trying very hard m…

> We already know the Russians are pros at manipulating social media

How do we know this?

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