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Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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This guy has a decade plus vendetta against Facebook [0] and posts in all these threads. While I respect that, I wouldn't read too much into this comment. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3029872

Yet, "this guy"'s comment was an interesting read, while yours was not.

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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Maybe I'm misremembering, but I thought Facebook's solution to the Washington law was to no longer run political ads in Washington.

Testing this out right now, from my home in Washington, if I try to create an ad and mark it as political, I'm told I need to get authorized to be able to run such an ad.

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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This guy has a decade plus vendetta against Facebook [0] and posts in all these threads. While I respect that, I wouldn't read too much into this comment. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3029872

Having a strong opinion you're willing to advocate for doesn't make the opinion any less valid in my book

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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From that PR it seems partial compliance is what got them burned. They obviously knew what ads were political because they put some information about them up, but not all. If they had simply not complied at all and tried to blame their customers for not classifying the ads correctly, it might have gone a bit better in their favor. Related, it's still insane that companies can basically argue "this ad that thousands u…

> If they had simply not complied at all and tried to blame their customers for not classifying the ads correctly, it might have gone a bit better in their favor This would have been blatant contempt of court. What they did was slightly less blatant.

> contempt of court

what

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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This guy has a decade plus vendetta against Facebook [0] and posts in all these threads. While I respect that, I wouldn't read too much into this comment. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3029872

I read the comment you linked. They seem to be eloquent and have good reason to dislike Facebook. Other commenters seem to agree with their views as well.

I’m not sure what your intention is here, but this makes it feel like you’re taking a stance FOR Facebook/Meta and trying to discount numair’s feelings about FB which seem valid.

This reads like a bot/paid commenter trying to de-legitimize real and honest discussion about the topic at hand.

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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How much money does meta even make from political ads? Why would they even want to deal with this?

It once again makes me wonder what they want to do with all that money. Meta is one of the most powerful companies. They get all this money to sell some of that money. What really is the end game here? The whole point of money or power would be to use it to do something you care about? What use is money and power for the sake of itself? Why have it if all you want is more of it? At least some rich people seem to want…

Perhaps a Walter White quote is fitting here: "I'm in the empire business."

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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Can you elaborate a bit on what you mean here? Possibly some examples?

It pretty clearly means that Facebook makes conscious decisions on how to weight what is displayed to users with the intention of politically influencing millions of people. Examples are probably difficult unless there's source code available from different eras of Facebook with a strict chain of custody, which obviously won't happen.

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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From that PR it seems partial compliance is what got them burned. They obviously knew what ads were political because they put some information about them up, but not all. If they had simply not complied at all and tried to blame their customers for not classifying the ads correctly, it might have gone a bit better in their favor. Related, it's still insane that companies can basically argue "this ad that thousands u…

They need to argue that, because otherwise it would eat into their bottom line to the point of unprofitability. You can't run a service for billions of people with less than 100k employees that also has an editor review everything.

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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Maybe time to rethink the way fines are determined. I’d be very much in favour of the “swiss model” for traffic fines - based on your income. You did X wrong, here’s the set price from our catalogue vs. you did X wrong and based on your earnings, here’s what you owe.

Re: Judge rules Facebook parent Meta intentionally violated campaign finance laws

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With a fine per violation of $10,000 who cares? They say Meta did hundreds of them... so a few million dollars. What's that, two engineer years?

If they had to comply with local law in every area they operate it would be extremely complicated and expensive to manage. I think they fear the precedent not the dollars in this specific case. Edit: To be clear my opinion is that FB should be forced to comply, by federal action if necessary. That their business depends on not taking responsibility for the messages they choose to amplify is their problem and they sho…

If that were true, why we do we see global oil companies, global retailers, global restaurant chains, or global media conglomerates? Do you think Walmart doesn't have to deal with varying employment and product laws at the country, state, and local level for each of its stores?
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