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Host your own bitwarden instance then.
I'd rather use KeepassXC with Syncthing
Bitwarden raises $100M
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Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#412I switched to Bitwarden when LastPass started using silly tactics to make customers pay. I didn't switch because of the price - the service pricing of Bitwarden was a pleasant surprise. I switched because I lost all trust in LastPass. Managing credentials and sensitive information is all about trust. The second I lose trust in that kind of service, I don't just stop using it, I will most likely never even consider co…
I checked out Bitwarden and it seemed like a better version of LastPass that just happened to be free. Their paid model doesn't appeal to me so I don't subscribe, but I would enjoy paying if they offered something that did.
(Off-topic: Bitwarden seems like an exact LastPass clone all the way down to the UI. Do they share a similar codebase or something? Like was one forked from an OSS version of the other?)
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#414serious question, is there any benefit to a password manager if you are using the Apple ecosystem via your Keychain across devices for password management with pin and faceID?
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#415In corporate market, I would expect more ubiquitous integration of cloud hosted identity providers and separate SSO auth providers (which will do MFA with device bound certs, biometric auth and FIDO2 auth) with all the services and they would all be protected behind BeyondCorp style VPN solutions (think Cloudflare, Tailscale etc). In this market, I wonder how they will continue to grow.
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Maybe some sort of self hosting arrangement would work for you? I self-host Bitwarden behind a Wireguard VPN so it's only visible to devices I've authorised. Self-hosting comes with it's own risks of course but you would at least be in control of your data.
Interesting approach. Any blogs you could point me to? I am also looking to self-host Bitwarden.
As for Wireguard, this looks pretty comprehensive: https://dev.to/tangramvision/what-they-don-t-tell-you-about-...
There are nice mobile clients available for both BW and WG.
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They could try and replicate most of the keybase features. Use FOSS to market it and sell a hosted version. That is the only direction which I think could charitably use this $100m productively.
This is actually roughly what they're doing: - They have a hosted/managed version with a free tier and a paid tier. Paid adds things like MFA and support for orgs. The more you pay, the enterprisey-er the org support gets. - There's also a self-hosted version which follows a very similar scheme. You can start out for free, but if you want things like MFA or a self-hosted org, you're paying the Warden.
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2001-2007, I had multiple bad experiences with Compaq, Lexmark and HP. These were so bad in terms of cost and frustration I vowed I would never buy their products or services again. It's been... 15+ years. The tech world of today is not quite the tech world of 2003. Should I ever bother with a Compaq or HP again? I probably won't, but the 'avoid at all costs' just isn't there with me any more. Perhaps I've mellowed s…
> Should I ever bother with a Compaq.. I don’t know guys, should we tell him?
I've been out of that world for a while, and I still see the compaq name now and then, but it looks like it's more of just a name licensing deal now?
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#419In the next couple of years, I expect FIDO2 Passwordless Auth to be ubiquitous, natively supported by all OS platforms. Built-in authentication credentials managers within Apple and Google/Android platforms will get more focused attention to improve them significantly. I suspect this should basically render the consumer market not monetizable. So, their free forever strategy here is aligned. In corporate market, I wo…
How do I explain FIDO2 Passwordless Auth to my mother?
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Venture investments don't typically work that way: the goal isn't incremental returns YoY but rather major returns in the long term. Raise a fund, make a bunch of investments, report growth in valuation YoY (based on increasing valuations of portfolio) and then deliver returns once portfolio companies start to exit. If BitWarden can use that $100m to 10x their valuation and then exit (whether that's an acquisition, g…
Yes, I'm not familiar with expected returns for investments so my back-of-napkin maths was based on approximate housing inflation in the UK. I figured they'd want more than that as a minimum. Clearly Bitwarden isn't a unicorn, being a smaller entity in a growing market; do VCs really expect a 10x (in couple of years?) from that sort of investment? So, do you agree with my basic premise that they'll need a whole heap…