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Bitwarden raises $100M

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Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by robertlagrant »

htrp wrote: post #221
nacs wrote: post #192

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The server and client-side apps/extensions for Bitwarden are open source unlike Lastpass too. At worst, we'll have to fork a current release if BW does stupid things in the future.

until they aren't open source anymore and once the FOSS forks are many features behind the product, then they adjust pricing

The nice thing is that it's so easy to set up a company these days that it can just take the last FOSS copy, fork it and go. It'd be a particularly good deal for BW devs, who would've got paid to R&D their own product.

Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by lhoff »

crazygringo wrote: post #229
bborud wrote: post #152

I switched to Bitwarden when LastPass started using silly tactics to make customers pay. I didn't switch because of the price - the service pricing of Bitwarden was a pleasant surprise. I switched because I lost all trust in LastPass. Managing credentials and sensitive information is all about trust. The second I lose trust in that kind of service, I don't just stop using it, I will most likely never even consider co…

> I don't give second chances to services that are trust based. You might run out of services then at some point. Human beings are fallible, full stop. Also, a company isn't an individual -- management teams change, corporate priorities change, security practices improve. Judging a whole company by what a few employees did or didn't do a decade ago isn't always going to yield an optimal approach. Refusing to give any…

> Judging a whole company by what a few employees did or didn't do a decade ago isn't always going to yield an optimal approach.

Not the OP but i have a similar stance. However a mistake from individual employee doesn't mean that i instantly loose trust. Its the handling of the mistake what matters to me. Sweeping it under the carpet, dening their mistakes or outright lieing about mistakes is what results in me loosing trust.

Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by bordercases »

libria wrote: post #235
pwpw wrote: post #155

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That’s a hell of a disclaimer after a decently alarmist comment. You may be correct, but I’m not sure it’s appropriate for you to raise that point given the conflict of interest.

I fear for this world if one cannot responsibly process the data they're given after all the cards are put on the table.

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Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by robertlagrant »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #193
metadaemon wrote: post #175

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Ah, the lifecycle of a company. I think of the first rounds of funding as a sort of puberty. Going public is the mid-life crisis, signaling the downward spiral towards inevitable death. Of course, being bought out is like God taking Enoch directly to heaven, where who knows what happens. Those large companies with unnatural lifespans have somehow tapped into the deep, dark magic of the Elder Ones (usually government…

>Those large companies with unnatural lifespans have somehow tapped into the deep, dark magic of the Elder Ones (usually government contracts) Or, you're Apple, and your cloud hosts the digital lives of all your users from teenage years to adulthood, so they're not gonna switch to any competitor no matter what.

If you got to that position by just selling something customers want, then good on you.

Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by robertlagrant »

sammorrowdrums wrote: post #178
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #131

I'm not referring to Bitwarden here but isn't this the standard M.O. of any SV startup? 1. Release great product for free 2. Attract as many free users as possible to signal growth to investors 3. Keep running the unprofitable free tier at a loss as long as possible using your massive VC war chest, while locking in your users with various gotchas 4. Once you reach critical scale and gained mass user adoption and you'…

4 also could add “try to avoid 5. by drawing up the regulatory ladder (such as YouTube becoming a bastion of large scale copyright enforcement)… so that it’s virtually impossible for startups to join the space.”

Easiest way to do video copyright detection as a new video platform is to upload every video to Youtube and watch what it does.

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Post by bmurphy1976 »

Avamander wrote: post #189
sleepless wrote: post #176

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Like TOTP, which is part of payed variant and I consider that an essential feature of a password manager in 2022. Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining about that business decision, just answering since you asked.

To be fair, TOTP should be a separate device to fulfil the criteria of actually being 2FA.

I totally agree, however there are some low-criticality services where 2FA is a burden and having it in your main password manager app is a tradeoff worth consideration. Definitely NOT your primary email address.

Re: Bitwarden raises $100M

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Post by robertlagrant »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #163
mcdan wrote: post #133

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Isn't bitwarden[0] already open source and aren't you just asking people to trust you till you take VC money? [0] - https://github.com/bitwarden/server

That's how it looks to me as well. OP's claim borders on FUD and comes a bit disingenuous while shilling their project. Bitwarden is opensource as well and there's also this independent popular 3rd party project that uses the bitwarden protocol that is much loved by the community.[1] 1: https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden

When the person declares it's their project, it's not disingenuous.
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