does bitwarden scale up to 20-30-50 thousand users?
Why would you share passwords with that many users?
Bitwarden raises $100M
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Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, the lifecycle of a company. I think of the first rounds of funding as a sort of puberty. Going public is the mid-life crisis, signaling the downward spiral towards inevitable death. Of course, being bought out is like God taking Enoch directly to heaven, where who knows what happens. Those large companies with unnatural lifespans have somehow tapped into the deep, dark magic of the Elder Ones (usually government…
>Those large companies with unnatural lifespans have somehow tapped into the deep, dark magic of the Elder Ones (usually government contracts) Or, you're Apple, and your cloud hosts the digital lives of all your users from teenage years to adulthood, so they're not gonna switch to any competitor no matter what.
Akin to vampirism, I suppose.
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#213Congrats to the Bitwarden team. Also wanted to mention it's a c# (dotnet) project for those who say dotnet isn't for startups.
Why would .net/C# have anything to do with the success or failure of a startup? Is this some weird SV bubble thing I'm seeing?
C# is a rarity in SV and startups in general. There's a resourcing constraint for a team hiring only geographically in SV.
SV and startups are dominated by JavaScript/TypeScript and Python. It makes the parts of the team a bit more plug-n-play and in some calculus, makes it easier to grow the team as the company grows.
There's also a bit of cultural asymmetry that may make it harder to hire experienced senior C# engineers. C# tends to be heavily used in enterprise so a startup competing for those resources may have a hard time because of that asymmetry with such engineers seeking more stability (both in terms of employment and codebase). Startups are built to go fast and break things which is the cultural opposite of enterprise where you plod carefully, plan, test, document, release, repeat.
There's always some consideration that C# may be a liability at due diligence. I can understand to some extent since it's much easier to hire for JS/TS or Python in SV than it is to hire for C#. Not that it can't be done and C# as a language is close enough to TS that a strong TS backend engineer can easily be trained to C#.
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#214I switched to Bitwarden when LastPass started using silly tactics to make customers pay. I didn't switch because of the price - the service pricing of Bitwarden was a pleasant surprise. I switched because I lost all trust in LastPass. Managing credentials and sensitive information is all about trust. The second I lose trust in that kind of service, I don't just stop using it, I will most likely never even consider co…
What specifically did they do to trick you into paying?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LastPass
Read the "reception" section.
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#215After lastpass, I am a little wary about password managers. Not sure when they plan to "monetize" me. Been using google password since lastpass turning on paywall. What's your opinion of Bitwarden? Reasons to give it a try? Having all passwords locked up is no fun.
Unlike both Google password and Lastpass, Bitwarden is open source on server and client side.
This means if worst comes to worst, the community will fork the code and set up a new server or 2.
I switched to it after the Lastpass changes and BW literally has everything LP had plus more. It even imported my thousands of LP entries on first try with no issues.
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#216I switched to Bitwarden when LastPass started using silly tactics to make customers pay. I didn't switch because of the price - the service pricing of Bitwarden was a pleasant surprise. I switched because I lost all trust in LastPass. Managing credentials and sensitive information is all about trust. The second I lose trust in that kind of service, I don't just stop using it, I will most likely never even consider co…
What specifically did they do to trick you into paying?
If it were an individual experience, I would agree with you, but it is public knowledge.
There were press releases and emails and stuff.
I also switched away from last pass then.
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#217I switched to Bitwarden when LastPass started using silly tactics to make customers pay. I didn't switch because of the price - the service pricing of Bitwarden was a pleasant surprise. I switched because I lost all trust in LastPass. Managing credentials and sensitive information is all about trust. The second I lose trust in that kind of service, I don't just stop using it, I will most likely never even consider co…
What specifically did they do to trick you into paying?
Doesn’t really matter what Lastpass did wrong, does it? The point is that trustworthiness is the single most important value for someone who wants users to entrust them with their credentials. Another point is how easily they can lose users. The poster lost trust in them, and was able to swap them out in a day.
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, https://contributing.bitwarden.com/contributing/#contributor...
Yup: Section 2.1: "By submitting a Contribution, you assign to Bitwarden all right, title, and interest in any copyright in the Contribution and you waive any rights, including any moral rights or database rights, that may affect our ownership of the copyright in the Contribution.
It’s a fascinating situation, really: this kind of asymmetry (AGPL for you, but not for us, even if you contribute) is antithetical to the purpose of the AGPL, but desirable for the leaders of quite a large fraction of projects that choose the license (to the point that they might either not use the AGPL or not accept contributions if they couldn’t do it).
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#219Well, if Bitwarden becomes the new LastPass, there's always room for another Bitwarden.
Re: Bitwarden raises $100M
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't bitwarden[0] already open source and aren't you just asking people to trust you till you take VC money? [0] - https://github.com/bitwarden/server
Not only that but even the clients are open source ( https://github.com/bitwarden/clients ). There's even an unofficial Rust reimplementation of the server which is even better. Parent post is spreading FUD on this one.
Yeah the Rust version works well. I had an issue with it when importing passwords from a file exported from Dashlane, but other than that no issues. And I run it on a bottom tier Digital Ocean vm.