Wow, I was just in the IRC channel and people there are saying they don't want exit nodes because of "liability". Completely ridiculous.
In Response to SOPA, Reddit Meshnet Project picks up steam
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#42The problem has already been fixed. In South Africa, there is a mature, established private Wireless network spanning huge urban areas AND interconnecting them. It's based on cheap 5GHz hardware and directional antennae (mostly yagi). Details here http://www.ptawug.co.za/
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#43 I'm against crazy government control as much as the next guy, but is creating a decentralized system in this manner really the answer to this problem? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I am just really curious.
There seems to be a big decentralization movement in recent times (bitcoins!) but even as a person against the extremes of SOPA, I can at least appreciate the securities and benefits of a "traditional" governing body, no matter how ridiculous some members of government are--I'm just speaking as a not so tech savvy person, but to me one of the biggest psychological hurdles for a project like this is giving control to a group of people I am unfamiliar with--there is some sense of a rapport (even if there is some lack of trust) with the traditional government (just like with banks as I allude to bitcoins) that to me is a big obstacle for the meshnet growing to a degree where it becomes a true meshnet.
Either way, I love the hustle, and admire the project immensely.
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#44I haven't completely read the OP, But why isn't Openmesh ( http://www.open-mesh.org/ previously B.A.T.M.A.N. ) mentioned anywhere in this thread yet? I like the fact that this is getting a lot of energy behind it, but the idea itself is not new. Please don't re-invent any wheels, time is too short for that.
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#45Even if this project isn't backed or supported by the "right" technically qualified people right now, I have no doubt that that will change as soon as the government-controlled internet becomes a noticeable reality. This is only the beginning. It will grow.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
From what I heard in the IRC group when I was hanging out, the group is mostly made up of people who think it's a nice idea but have absolutely no idea what they're doing. My prediction is this movement fails flat on its face, as the people with the knowhow to develop the new protocols for this network are uninterested in joining a mass of lemmings who are more interested about what the project is going to be called…
I've taken it upon myself to shit on anything that hasn't been already implemented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLSR That's my current proposal for routing protocol. How it works at scale, I have no fucking idea, but I'll manually write the redistribution if I have to at the aggregation nodes.
I would say don't even try, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.A.T.M.A.N. is a better bet. OSLR will never work at the kind of scale that this project is aiming at. It's meant for networks on the order of hundreds of nodes.
Also, you still need an addressing system. I was mentioning one of a hundred different problems that I've yet to see one person in the organization qualified to solve. If Van Jacobsen announced tomorrow he was building a worldwide mesh network I'd drop everything else and start contributing, but until then I see a lot of people flailing around and going nowhere.
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#48Enthusiastic people with out technical knowledge are needed. First off a good idea with leadership can succeed in this area. The way to make mesh work which has not been tried has nothing to do with technology or any other comment issue found here. It has to do with how people get the internet right now. If you set up consumer sales side of your mesh project to look like any other ISP from the consumer perspective, i.e. you call up a number and a few hours or days later you have internet then it can work. Issues specific to mesh are you need to focus on islands, so you can only offer service in an ever growing area. As the mesh grows sales can grow until the islands merge. In the meantime, before islands merge you need to have access to old fashioned wire as well as after they merge. Ultimately its just another business model. It can work if deployed well.
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#49No offense to the "reddit meshnet project", but the last I checked (this could have changed) what they're proposing isn't possible with the team that they have right now. There are a couple of problems: 1) They don't have a solid hardware platform to work on, and the feeling I've gotten from talking to some of the people on /r/darknetplan is that they really don't have the proper understanding of wireless tech to mak…
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Re: In Response to SOPA, Reddit Meshnet Project picks up steam
#50The problem has already been fixed. In South Africa, there is a mature, established private Wireless network spanning huge urban areas AND interconnecting them. It's based on cheap 5GHz hardware and directional antennae (mostly yagi). Details here http://www.ptawug.co.za/
There is a similar thing in the Czech republic
http://mapa.czfree.net/#lat=50.025828752356176&lng=14.73...;
CZ used to have 66% (200k in 2006) of all wireless end users in the EU