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Re: The WFH Folks

#71
Last month, i lived temporarily in a house with roommates I knew very well (my brother and a good friend) and we were all working from home. Water cooler moments, breaks, taking care of food and cooking, taking care of the garden...

Everything was just better than any workplace environment I've been in, and way better than the 'startup house' i lived in when i thought we had good ideas and that my colleagues were my friends and nice to live with.

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#72
I started a new job April 2021 and haven’t felt a lack of social connection. In fact, I feel like I have built better social connections faster working remotely. I am a software developer and honestly find it easier to communicate and build relationships over group or direct messages, and I believe a lot of developers are similar - it’s just the nature of us.

We have weekly catch up meetings over video chat, as well as other meetings which also helps and generally everyone has their camera on which helps.

These connections I have built over Slack and MS Teams have directly translated into real life, and when we do meet up for company parties or whatever, it’s as if I’ve always been there and the social connection remains.

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#73
The connections can still be made virtually, but the mechanisms and supports need to be created. In person there is always some slack time before or after meetings, in the hallways, cubes following interactions. If you can foster an environment where these slack times can happen digitally too, then you can have some of these impromptu discussions and get to know yous.

I suggest that video chats are probably the best format for this. Encourage people to work camera on, and to schedule small calls regularly with each other rather than always coordinating on chat/email. Start with some small talk, go into shop talk, and see what naturally falls out at the end just like regular meetings. If you're a lead/manager then set an example to this end and encourage (don't force) others to follow it.

Re: The WFH Folks

#74
post #30

I just started at a 100% remote company. I don't feel a loss of social interaction here, but I did at my previous company. There's a couple things I would note if you want to succeed with a remote culture: - Have very direct conversations on your team about how you want communication to go. Our agreements sit right next to our team charter. - How the company manages chat seems to affect how people communicate. If the…

These are very helpful tips. Thank you.

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#75
I have some social connection with my teammates and my coworkers are awesome, but work isn't really a place where I focus on those things. Just working with kind professionals is more than enough. I've recently moved to a new city, so I'm making new social connections outside of work via meetups.

Re: The WFH Folks

#76
Don’t really care for in person interaction. In the past however many jobs I’ve found that the only reason you are “friends” with people at work is that you see them every day.

You leave or they leave and 90% of the time you never hear from them again.

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#77

I’m an eng manager at a public company. Short answer - relationships cannot be made via zoom. Thus, interactions are transaction based. I can provide a million examples of why this is a fact in as simple as online dating where you always want to end up meeting the person and digital correspondence is not sufficient to cross the boundary of trust between 2 humans. …and trust is the one thing that gets you promoted, ge…

I agree with this 100%. As other commenters have pointed out, there is a difference between getting work done and actually building relationships. It's very possible to get high quality work done remotely, but relationship-wise, it's very transactional in nature for most people.

So far, I've been involved with several teammates and building meaningful relationships remotely has been impossible for one reason or another. It's always just a quick chat about the weather and maybe something interesting that happened to someone that week, but that's it. At best, it's just a shallow form of camaderie.

I do believe that good relationships can be built remotely, but it's not trivial to do. At my workplace, there was never a meaningful cultural shift towards remote work after COVID hit.

But hey, a bit of loneliness is better than being stuck in traffic for 2 hours a day right?

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#78
No. I noticed that problem when COVID lockdowns happened. And lots of people who don't work from home still haven't recovered their social lives either.

I realize a lot of people use work as a social crutch, but honestly if the closest friends you have are people who are paid to hang out with you, you have deeper problems.

Re: The WFH Folks

#79
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked for fully remote companies and fully in office companies and large companies and tiny ones. I've been an IC mostly but also a manger and lead. My observation is: it doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Decisions are made, people do the work. There has been no noticeable quality difference except in the case of large+office where the strong social element combined with the faceless corp equalled a lot mo…

True of bad managers. And in large orgs they are not isolated, usually a group under a bad director or vp of a division. And totally agree on the work being visibly the exact same output if not more in my case. But one example I can give is how for certain folks who want to build a professional career or want to grow, they need to know who in what group they can connect with. And in office it looks like you sometimes…

I get what you're saying but my anecdotal experience is different now that I think about it. I made good friends in both office and remote situations. I'm only in touch with one person from the in office times, and that's by email. I chat online with plenty of people I've worked with remotely in the past. Interestingly one person who was at the same company when I worked in office, but he was at another office... It just seems easier to carry on the chat when you or they move on. These are now the ones who form my network and occasionally I do get to meet some in person.

Re: The WFH Folks

#80
post #4

Honestly I don't have any issues with this. Most of my team is in Europe and I'm in America so even before COVID and WFH became the norm, I was still talking to people via Slack, Teams, etc. I think the best advice I can give is to reach out to people and have normal conversations when you don't need anything. If you only talk to people when you need something from them, they are going to be less likely to talk about…

Hypothetically, do you think it would be nice if you found out common things you shared with you co-workers right from the start? For example not going 5+ months not knowing that they support the same soccer team that you do. That is 5 months worth of convo that could have happened from the start.

It seems that you are pretty social and take extra steps to build the connections. So, wondering if it would be easier for you to not have to do the leg work and be able to get into the main things you and your co-worker can talk about for hours.

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