It is not the first time when product simulates imperfections of the past technology to make product more authentic in customers eyes. Film color,lenses defects, lots of "analog" audio effects and now cars.
The movie frame rate of 24 fps...
Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
This comes up in every HN EV thread. Why not convert a mid 20th century car to EV?
A skateboard-style BEV sees significant benefits in crash performance from the battery, that's not something you get with hybrid platforms ("ICE and also BEV on the same platform") or conversions. Crash performance in cars has in general massively benefited from the trifecta of more stringent requirements, better processes and more compute in the last two or so decades.
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#23I can't decide whether this is dumber than Dodge making a huge deal about how their new EV Dodge Charger (car not car-charger, oh my god, what a branding screw up) makes authentic loud V8 noises, but they're definitely both stupid. Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?
I wish EVs were actually silent. In reality they are just as loud as a normal ICE vehicle above 20mph/30kph.
The reason for this are the tires which have gotten so wide over the past decades that they are now the sole noise you hear from a normal car.
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#24That already exists - in China . They made a vehicle like this for driving lessons - so you can pass your test in a "manual" vehicle.
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#25I can't decide whether this is dumber than Dodge making a huge deal about how their new EV Dodge Charger (car not car-charger, oh my god, what a branding screw up) makes authentic loud V8 noises, but they're definitely both stupid. Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?
Above about 20 mph, EVs naturally make plenty of noise for people to realize they’re there and moving. It’s only at low speed that they’re overly quiet for pedestrian awareness.
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#26I can't decide whether this is dumber than Dodge making a huge deal about how their new EV Dodge Charger (car not car-charger, oh my god, what a branding screw up) makes authentic loud V8 noises, but they're definitely both stupid. Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?
The first time I ever saw an EV was in San Francisco, an EV1, somewhere around 2000. It literally was silent at slow speeds. My own first EV was a Leaf which has a noise maker which starts audible and decreases with speed and cuts out at about 20. I don't think my S does this. It should. This sound is a little annoying for the driver but is necessary for pedestrians, particularly blind people.
BTW, this clutch idea is really really dumb.
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#27I can't decide whether this is dumber than Dodge making a huge deal about how their new EV Dodge Charger (car not car-charger, oh my god, what a branding screw up) makes authentic loud V8 noises, but they're definitely both stupid. Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?
> Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?
The future looks bleaker with each passing day
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#28As a clutch enthusiast, I would welcome this innovation if it actually improved EV motor performance. If its only purpose is to simulate the ICE experience, I'm not interested.
Based on my experience with the Volt, which already needed traction control to keep the tires from spinning, it probably will offer slighlty different driving modes. Torquey, smooth, low-rev/low-heat highway mode.
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#29I can't decide whether this is dumber than Dodge making a huge deal about how their new EV Dodge Charger (car not car-charger, oh my god, what a branding screw up) makes authentic loud V8 noises, but they're definitely both stupid. Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?
I wish EVs were actually silent. In reality they are just as loud as a normal ICE vehicle above 20mph/30kph. The reason for this are the tires which have gotten so wide over the past decades that they are now the sole noise you hear from a normal car.
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#30I don't want a fake clutch.