Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
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Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#2Seems very similar to paddle shifters in a gas CVT. There's no mechanical connection between the "clutch peddle" and "shifter" to the actual transmission, it is all just fed into a computer and a simulation is created to give the driver a warm fizzy feeling.
If this makes people feel better during the transitional phase, I guess that counts for something, but this is a manual car simulation only.
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#3Funny that it's coming from the same Toyota that puts CVTs with no discrete gear steps in their gas cars and doesn't try to hide it...
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#4It is not the first time when product simulates imperfections of the past technology to make product more authentic in customers eyes.
Film color,lenses defects, lots of "analog" audio effects and now cars.
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#5Funny that it's coming from the same Toyota that puts CVTs with no discrete gear steps in their gas cars and doesn't try to hide it...
Why would you expect them to hide it? It works great. I think the CVVT text was included right under the model name on my Toyota too.
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#6I suppose I'm not the target market for this. To me this is just added complexity that increases cost and likelihood of something breaking. I'm still waiting for someone to make a "battery on wheels", an electric car with no extra bells and whistles. I think it could end up being so cheap to own, and also extremely reliable, since electric cars need no transmissions, and almost no maintenance of any kind for that matter. My Leaf needs tires, and... that's about it until 100k miles.
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#7It is not the first time when product simulates imperfections of the past technology to make product more authentic in customers eyes. Film color,lenses defects, lots of "analog" audio effects and now cars.
The feeling of controlling a machine = "imperfections"
What I would expect a machine to say. I, for one, do not welcome our new robot overlords.
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#8I suppose I'm not the target market for this. To me this is just added complexity that increases cost and likelihood of something breaking. I'm still waiting for someone to make a "battery on wheels", an electric car with no extra bells and whistles. I think it could end up being so cheap to own, and also extremely reliable, since electric cars need no transmissions, and almost no maintenance of any kind for that mat…
This comes up in every HN EV thread.
Why not convert a mid 20th century car to EV?
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#9Funny that it's coming from the same Toyota that puts CVTs with no discrete gear steps in their gas cars and doesn't try to hide it...
Toyota also makes the iMT transmission, which is possibly the most user friendly manual transmission ever made.
Re: Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch
#10I suppose I'm not the target market for this. To me this is just added complexity that increases cost and likelihood of something breaking. I'm still waiting for someone to make a "battery on wheels", an electric car with no extra bells and whistles. I think it could end up being so cheap to own, and also extremely reliable, since electric cars need no transmissions, and almost no maintenance of any kind for that mat…
> I'm still waiting for someone to make a "battery on wheels", an electric car with no extra bells and whistles.
Didn’t you already find it with the Leaf? Or is a base-model Leaf still full of lots of unnecessary farkle?