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Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
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Re: Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
#12They host (or shield) a bunch of high-profile piracy sites (the largest repacker for example) and hosted Parler after it was kicked from AWS. I've never heard of anyone being suspended by DG. Great achievement, that surely wasn't easy.
"At least Russian cyber firms have more corporate ethics than @CloudflareHelp." :')
(https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1566729178807926785)
Re: Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
#13I'm very glad Kiwi Farms is gone. But as a thought experiment, would an IPFS based distributed website survive attacks of this nature? It could be pinned by individual users and gateways and accessed using browser plug-ins. [1] https://ipfs.tech/
I'd be interested to know if the users of the site would be brave and willing enough to pin Kiwi Farm's content to their attributable/personally owned devices... Surely some of the appeal or enablers for the behaviour on there is that someone else is wearing the legal risk of storing it all
There are pinning services, that do the pinning for a fee.
But Those can also be DDosed I suppose. Can have multiple pinners of course but, but I doubt that makes a difference in the longer term.
Re: Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
#14Wonder how long it will be before it’s back online or if the owner will throw in the towel.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect that a TOR service is easy to DDOS. Anyone know if that's true?
Yes, Tor services are particularly easy to DoS and there's pretty much nothing the DoS recipient can do about it.
Well, other than deregistering the onion address from dHT and quit :)
I'm glad their little "community" is being seen off into the void. Good riddance.
Re: Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
#16I'm very glad Kiwi Farms is gone. But as a thought experiment, would an IPFS based distributed website survive attacks of this nature? It could be pinned by individual users and gateways and accessed using browser plug-ins. [1] https://ipfs.tech/
I theory yes, but ipfs covers the distribution and publishing, not the editing. There would still have to be some stateful service for account management, posting, etc. that would suffer the same issues as the current service.
On top of that, access at two biggest gateways would likely be filtered since one is a hobbyist service and the other is cloudflare, so everyone would have to run their own nodes.
So in practice - no. Only an archive of the current state.
Re: Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
#17Wonder how long it will be before it’s back online or if the owner will throw in the towel.
Last thing I heard was that they were still somehow accessible, but this was just discord talk.
EDIT: This was yesterday evening, EU time
Re: Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, Tor services are particularly easy to DoS and there's pretty much nothing the DoS recipient can do about it.
Well, other than deregistering the onion address from dHT and quit :) I'm glad their little "community" is being seen off into the void. Good riddance.
looks like it took down a related nz neo-nazi site too
> The ban may have also inadvertently blocked a New Zealand-based neo-nazi group called Action Zealandia.
> The Action Zealandia website, which is believed to be hosted by a website run by Moon, is also offline.
(https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/technology/2022/09/infamous-k...)
Re: Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service
#19Wonder how long it will be before it’s back online or if the owner will throw in the towel.
Last thing I heard was that they were still somehow accessible, but this was just discord talk. EDIT: This was yesterday evening, EU time
Yes, over Tor. But their onion domain can be DoS'ed and I imagine it's too slow for a forum with media.
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#20They host (or shield) a bunch of high-profile piracy sites (the largest repacker for example) and hosted Parler after it was kicked from AWS. I've never heard of anyone being suspended by DG. Great achievement, that surely wasn't easy.
It's rare, but it has happened before. 8chan/8kun and Hamas managed to get suspended by DG.