I'd like to consider migrating from my self-hosted solution but it seems like all major email providers want $ per month per user|mailbox. Are there any providers out there that charge a reasonable fixed amount for say 50 mailboxes?
After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
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Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#562XMPP has similar flaws except even worse. Too many different feature sets floating around, too many weird/insecure defaults. It also lost the federation game.
Think of HTTPS, a success story of self-hosting. The weird cases are just out of the question. You basically can't use encryption without signing, or old versions of TLS.
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#563> Email is now an oligopoly, a service gate kept by a few big companies which does not follow the principles of net neutrality. While I understand what they're getting at here, I disagree. There are certainly other providers you can go with - You just need to pay up. Happy customer of FastMail here. All of my personal domains, and multiples businesses are tied to it. Wonderful service, no deliverability issues, great…
These companies are part of the oligopoly.
One can become part of said oligopoly, but it requires an outsized effort for an individual to keep the service running just for himself.
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#564Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not using block lists will inundate mail servers with spam. It's a necessary evil.
And for most people, using a large mail provider is the necessary evil. I don't see much difference between a small mail provider using block lists and a large mail provider using the same block lists + their own proprietary lists and metrics. Both result in other small mail providers getting blocked for arbitrary reasons with limited recourse.
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#565The address 929@homeaffairs.gov.au, which must be used by Australian permanent residents to update their personal details, refuses to accept email messages unless they are from big tech. Shame on you, Australian Department of Home Affairs. And shame on Telstra, which provides the service. --- Remote-MTA: dns; dibp-ibmail2.msng.telstra.com.au Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554-mx.msng.telstra.com.au 554 Your access to this ma…
That might be something worth talking to a journalist about.
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#566I was with the author up until the end. Why not have have regulation that makes the big company's spend money on processing? The can surely afford it.
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#567The topic often comes up. Can't say I share the experience. My servers have never been put on a blacklist in the 7 years they've been running, and one of them operates from my residential DSL connection. Standard postfix+dovecot stack on an Archlinux VPS, I log in once a year to update the packages and make sure there is enough disk space left.
Essentially all residential IPs are blacklisted for email servers, at least on port 25. Many ISPs blackhole any traffic on port 25 to residential IPs. Do you have port 25 working on your residential connection?
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#568Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is also a happy medium. Host your own MX servers but use someone else's SMTP servers. You have complete control over the incoming mail but dodge the filters by using the established business for sending mail.
This should be made a standard practice. Third party email providers, the so-called "established businesses", get a free pass as sending SMTP servers that are accepted by almost all receiving STMP servers. Everyone just assumes everything coming from those SMTPs is legit. Establishing this "legitimacy" and getting the "free pass" is difficult and some have suggested, the third parties may employ anticompetive tactics…
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#569Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess a lawyer might know a thing or two about confidential messages.
I think you’d be very surprised at how much lawyers don’t know or care about any of that. They store stuff in the cloud without ever having heard of the Third Party Doctrine (which allows the US government warrantless access to those documents).
Re: After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel
#570The sweet spot for having control over your email while simultaneously minimizing unforseen headaches is to simply own your domain name and point the MX record to whatever hosting provider you want instead of self-hosting a server at home. Same philosophy for exposing a your personal blog of html files or content like mp4 videos. The sweet spot is to focus on buying a domain name you control. Then let Amazon S3, or C…
It’s a misnomer to say you can “own” a domain name. You cannot. The better word would be “rent”. Because of that you should think about what could happen if your domain name registration lapses and someone else registers it.