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Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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I wonder if this could help pedophile people since generated porn wouldn't imply abuse of children.

No, because "child porn" includes cartoons which already don't imply abuse of children. As long as such content can decrease recidivism/prevent child abuse, which preliminary research suggest it does, it seems logical to permit it. Unfortunately I'm not sure it will ever fly with the wider public, the subject matter is just too distasteful regardless of the evidence.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Does watching gay porn make you gay too? Why on Earth any normal person would specifically look for CSAM material be it AI generated or not? I doubt that many people who seen something sickening on internet immediately became attracted to it and huge percent of people who use internet for 10+ years seen all kind of terrible things. Unfortunately anyone who hosted or moderated online communities had to deal with a lot…

The idea is that viewing AI-generated CSAM by someone who is already a pedophile will increase the probability that they'll decide to go out and abuse a child. Or, it'll foster a cultural acceptance of child abuse, leading people to be more confident to go out and do it. There's no actual data that demonstrates this, given it's hard to study, but it's not implausible. One could make the opposite argument, too. If you…

> There's no actual data that demonstrates this, given it's hard to study, but it's not implausible.

Actually there are studies suggesting that letting known child molesters access to child porn cartoons reduces recidivism.

Decent review of some of the evidence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_por...

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Exactly. Woke culture never seems to mention women's preference for tall men, which is actually a lot worse than men's preference for skinnier women, as the former is not something a person can change.

> Woke culture never seems to mention women's preference for tall men, “Woke culture” isn’t an actual thing, it's a propaganda terms that applies to a fiction deliberately created for partisan political purposes. But the real world social justice and DEI communities do in fact talk a fair amount about height bias as an aspect of physical. appearance discrimination, and it is by no means limited to women, though that…

That's true. A lot of people conflate aggressive and misandrist self-described (but fake) feminists who adopt that label for clout and status and who are prominent in high culture, and the actual more low profile social justice folks who often criticize things like a culture towards height preference. Amber Heard is a good example of the former. A clear narcissist who uses "short" as a pejorative against men and adopts the feminist label for clout.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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Exactly. Woke culture never seems to mention women's preference for tall men, which is actually a lot worse than men's preference for skinnier women, as the former is not something a person can change.

> Woke culture never seems to mention women's preference for tall men, “Woke culture” isn’t an actual thing, it's a propaganda terms that applies to a fiction deliberately created for partisan political purposes. But the real world social justice and DEI communities do in fact talk a fair amount about height bias as an aspect of physical. appearance discrimination, and it is by no means limited to women, though that…

If woke culture is not a thing, then what is the word to describe what you know that I’m talking about?

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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> Woke culture never seems to mention women's preference for tall men, “Woke culture” isn’t an actual thing, it's a propaganda terms that applies to a fiction deliberately created for partisan political purposes. But the real world social justice and DEI communities do in fact talk a fair amount about height bias as an aspect of physical. appearance discrimination, and it is by no means limited to women, though that…

If woke culture is not a thing, then what is the word to describe what you know that I’m talking about?

> If woke culture is not a thing, then what is the word to describe what you know that I’m talking about?

I don't know what you are talking about. I assume from both the term and the claims you make about it, that you are using “woke culture” in its standard use, as a term for a thing which exists only in the right-wing propaganda and the minds of those influenced by it, in which case it is not a terminology problem, but an understanding of reality problem.

Re: AI is getting better at generating porn

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> Do the people making such comments think this won’t be applied eventually to all sexual preferences? I’d see two aspects of this: - it cements the status quo. This technology isn’t bound by the availability of actors, real life societal issues etc, so I understand the disappointment when it follows exactly all the same lines as the current industry. And a lot of people aren’t happy with the current industry, to say…

hey man i get arguments about stuff like access to equal education and police brutality as real problems. but are you really trying to make the case that unequal access to porn is a social woe or oppressive?

I wasn't going to these lengths in my comment, but yes I actually think porn is pretty important to our society in many many ways.

It depends on your country, but most western societies have piss poor sex education. I think it got a lot better, but we still mostly expect parents to have "the talk" (like it was just a single conversation...). There is unlimited amounts of media touching on relationship dynamics, but comparatively way few fewer touching on sex itself, as we commercially punish that depiction.

What we have left to cover that is porn.

So yes, I think what porn touches on, what's depicted, and having a broad landscape matching as many orientation as we can accept actually matters. Porn restrictions are bound to a society's moral compass, I don't know if improving porn can bias toward a better direction as well, but at least we could try.

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