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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Even if that’s true, why would you add another party (i.e. Google) to that chain?

While pervasive tracking is insidious, Google is the least problematic actor since they don't sell their data.

> Google is the least problematic actor since they don't sell their data.

Isn't that like 99% of their revenue i.e selling user data?!

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Their marketshare is not so tiny anymore. It grew 380% to 3% in North America: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-market-share-3... If the same trend is maintained, it will soon become the fourth biggest manufacturer, right after Apple, Samsung and Lenovo. Not huge, but not serving a small niche either.

Sounds like every startup pitch. “We started out at .01% of the market and we doubled in size to .02% of the market in a year doubling in size! We saw faster growth than the leader”

I agree the headline is exaggerated, but 3% of the NA market is quite significant.

It's no longer a fringe device such as Jolla in the EU market.

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It only supports ‘Chrome Manifest v3’-style ‘simple’ blocking lists, not ‘true’ adblockers. These mostly work fine but are clearly less powerful. They also don’t work with non-Safari browsers (e.g. Firefox).

This hasn’t been true for two years Safari on iOS has supported web extensions for that long.

iOS Safari supports Web Extensions for a year, but does it useful for adblocker? It lacks WebRequest API (from the beginning of Mac Safari).

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Sounds like every startup pitch. “We started out at .01% of the market and we doubled in size to .02% of the market in a year doubling in size! We saw faster growth than the leader”

I agree the headline is exaggerated, but 3% of the NA market is quite significant. It's no longer a fringe device such as Jolla in the EU market.

Hardware needs scale to be profitable and successful. 3% of the NA market is not scale.

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Is Pixel hardware the problem? Or untested buggy Google shovel-ware?

I would argue the value add of the Pixel 6 is the proprietary Google SW. I was considering the Pixel 6 only for its photo abilities, and a lot of those are via Google SW - not fantastic lenses/processors. If I replace it with a custom ROM, the OnePlus is probably a better device (faster processor, etc). If the Google SW is so buggy, there's no compelling reason to buy one just because of the HW.

GrapheneOS.org, CalyxOS.org, et al

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

Huh. I wonder where are all the Android/Pixel apologists that say that to taste "real" Android you have to use Pixel. (And I say that as an Android developer, before downvotes come my way)

A problem is that "real" Android is often not greater than modified Android.

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I was an inch away from buying an iPhone, even though I disapprove of their curation model, because Android is such a garbage fire. (Not one modern Android phone has in-kernel-tree drivers? Not one?) And the forced curation is dumb but if they're approving everything I'd want to use anyway, Android can eat it until they sort out their problems. What do I even need? Signal and Firefox with uBlock, that's really it. On…

>Not one modern Android phone has in-kernel-tree drivers? Not one That's up to Qualcomm, not Android. And Qualcomm needs to sell new chips every year, therefore planned obsolescence by tying the drivers to a version of Android works in their favor.

Google has the leverage to fix this if they wanted to.

Samsung is also leaving a competitive advantage on the table by not doing this with Exynos.

And the planned obsolescence is pointless. Even if you could run the latest Linux kernel on a phone you bought ten years ago, a phone from that year might have a 3G radio and less than a GB of memory. Which can still make phone calls, or be used in place of a Raspberry Pi, but it's hardly competition for anything currently commanding significant margins.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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> So where do we go from here? GrapheneOS.org

Which is supported only on Google Pixels. So if I go that route, how can I be sure it won’t suffer from the same bugs re: emergency calls?

...check their git repo's issues?

Take 30 seconds and ask in the channel?

Due diligence and personal responsibility for what is likely your most important computing device, instead of contracting that out to firms who would stab their grandmother to improve their quarterly numbers.

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> So where do we go from here? GrapheneOS.org

Which is supported only on Google Pixels. So if I go that route, how can I be sure it won’t suffer from the same bugs re: emergency calls?

PS Only supported on phones that have proper boot security.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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No, the 3 was abandoned a little over four years after its release.

And the more relevant date: not even 2.5 years between the Pixel 3 being the actively promoted flagship device and being declared obsolete by virtue of dropping security updates.

Anyway Pixel 3 has very low RAM (4GB) as a 2018 Android flagship (even not good as a mid-range). It effectively decreases lifetime.
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