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This. Just This.
Seriously though, as someone fairly uneducated in the space of how standards, protocols, and regulations get set in place, how can the ship be moved on this issue? Tech companies will likely only move / allocate resources if there is financial incentive. So what do we do?
E-mail is complicated, sure. But I’ve had it up to here with people who give up running their own server and then go on to vastly exaggerate how infeasible it is, in order to placate their own conscience. It’s not that they’ve gotten tired of doing it, oh no; (they say,) it’s entirely the fault of Google, Microsoft, etc. who’ve made it literally impossible to run your own e-mail server. Except it’s not impossible – l…
I’m genuinely interested. Where would you recommend a newcomer starts?
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> The sweet spot for having no forth amendment protection for your email because its stored by a third party.
Most emails are still going through servers owned by Microsoft or Google, so what does self-hosting email accomplish in reality? Some government entity likely has warrant-less access to most of your emails regardless. I like email as a way to communicate, but speaking pragmatically, it’s just not a secure means of communication in 2022.
Well, for one thing it prevents Google from building a profile of my online shopping behavior based on my email receipts. Also avoids them knowing every time I go on a trip based on booking confirmation emails.
Like most people, I'm not trying to hide from the government.
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It’s just because of spam. All open systems that do not impose a cost to participate are destroyed by spam.
Spam has been a thing forever. Literally forever. Yet people have been dealing with spam far better than the big boys, and doing so for decades. Want to talk about anti-competitive? Gmail will accept mails, provide a 250 SMTP response, then drop the email internally. That's not right. At all. You can reject the email easily during SMTP exchange, and people have been doing that literally for 20+ years. No valid excuse…
Totally naive questions: Could we come up with a new protocol (possibly based on SMTP/IMAP/whatever), that would only guarantee to get your email to its recipient if you included some sort of token generated by the recipient and given to you? Something where you could text/message/whatever a unique token to a friend/business/etc. and then they can send you email? And if you email someone, your outgoing email includes…
This said, my concern is that the big players seem like they could, at a whim, drop you as a customer, with no recourse. This is what is giving me pause going to the big providers.
I've been looking at mail distributions like Mail-in-a-box, and modoba as an intermediate, though none of them seem to be great. Basically I don't want to stitch together several different opinionated tools into a working mail system anymore.
I'm on 12 years of self hosting email and counting. Once every so often, I do end up being blocked, usually by Outlook and once by Yahoo. I'm in their 'sender program' and they still don't actually bother to contact postmaster@, but a few emails is usually enough to unblock the block within 24h. Agree with a sibling comment that many major providers fail to operate the SPF/DKIM/DMARC tools they insist you do. Each to…
I completly agree with you. While Hetzner is my actual neighbor as their headquarters is right in the neighboring town, I still use a server at very small scale provider. I have no problem with my email server. I receive some spam here and there, mostly from Russia. But I immediatly block the according IP addresses for some time. For years I avoided to use any external service to decide whether its Spam or not. But a…
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> It's just not something I want to babysit anymore because I have other things to focus on Dont know about you, but I have setup my mailserver years ago, and outside of regular OS updates, havent had to touch it.
For me, the issue wasn't that I had to fix it frequently , but that when I did it was urgent, stressful and disruptive. Eventually the VDS I was renting had a fatal HD crash and I gave up.