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Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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People are more pissed off about the feminist bullshit in the show. Galadriel a warrior? Give me a fucking break, puke.

What's wrong with Galadriel being a warrior? Seems like a pretty cool character to me. Also, just because she's a warrior that's feminism? I guess she should be in the kitchen instead.

Yes it is feminism. It’s an attempt to draw false parity between the sexes by suggesting the woman can do everything a man can.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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Rome was a multiethnic empire. I don't see what being Roman or not has to do with ethnicity. The Roman people living there being ethically Berber, that is, African. The name Africa itself probably coming from the Afri Berber tribe. They were both Roman people and also ethnically African. And Berber tribes despite not being from subsaharan Africa did, through thousands of years of contact, have significant ethnic and…

By Roman I meant having Italic roots. It is a bit disingenuous to call them them indigenous or ethnically African. Especially because his father was of Punic origin and not a Berber as you are implying.

There were multiple Roman emperors born in North Africa. One had mixed Punic and Italic origins, one was a mix between Punic, Berber, and Syrian ancestry, and Caracalla had only Berber ancestry.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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I mean ... she's a fairy, not a human .. what does her skin have to do with the time period or place in which she appeared? And there's literally zero reason to insist that Collodi's description is the only way a fairy character can be portrayed in a staged version of his book. The real problem is getting upset over the skin color of the actors and actresses playing fairies (or stormtroopers or elves or angels or for…

Actors should be a good match for the role they play. That includes accent, build, height, sex, attractiveness, characterization (Will Smith couldn't play Sauron) and skin colour.

So, what you're trying to tell us is that Denzel Washington was miscast in The Tragedy of Macbeth?

Presumably also Ira Aldridge as King Lear.

What's especially funny about this is that your criteria disqualifies Shakespearean theater in the time of Shakespeare.

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I didn't say based IN I said based ON. Those are similar sounding but completely different. The former implies it's actually based in the same country and lands as Europe. Whereas the later implies it's merely inspired by to some degree.

Tolkien borrowed quite heavily from Scandinavian mythology, especially the epic Väinämöinen from Finnish mythology, and seems to have been obsessed with Odin from Norse mythology. Is that what you mean? Because claiming he based his fictional myths and his fantasy fiction on European myths and history is so vague and technically inaccurate that is must be false. Though Italy is firmly in Europe, describing lasagna as…

> Though Italy is firmly in Europe, describing lasagna as European food is at best misleading and at worst false.

I can’t understand what you mean by this at all and it sounds like an absurd thing to say. Can you please explain?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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It seems kind of weird to characterize Tolkien fans being interested in a new, high-profile Lord of the Rings show as "brigading". Of course the people with the biggest emotional connection and interest in a franchise will be the ones most active in reviewing, creating YouTube videos, and discussing it online. I think the better question is why so many established sci-fi and franchises seem to be alienating their cor…

This is a very astute comment. We are living in some kind of Twilight Zone environment right now. Corporations purchase IP for decades-long, popular franchises, then deliberately alienate their core audience. Then they act as if all these people they just deliberately pissed off aren't real people. Words like "brigading" are a clever way to dehumanize your critics.

I'm sorry, "deliberately" alienating the core audience? How exactly are they doing that? It's an enormous, expensive rendition of mostly-obscure Tolkien content. How's that supposed to upset a fan?

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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When you say European, except for the fact that Tolkien wrote the story, what part of the show thus far has given you an explicit European feel? Did the Harfoots resemble British subjects, or do the race of men have to be from the European continent because of their skin color? Which city did Lindon look like? If we're already in a fantasy setting, why is there such a focus on relating the setting of the fantasy to o…

> When you say European, except for the fact that Tolkien wrote the story, what part of the show thus far has given you an explicit European feel? "Middle Earth" was an old phrase used to refer to Western Europe in several Scandinavian languages. Tolkien, being a linguist, would have known this and chosen that turn of phrase deliberately.

I'm pretty sure Shakespeare knew what a woman was, but they weren't cast in any of his plays. I doubt Tolkien would give a shit whether actors with dark skin played any of his characters.

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The cast of Hamilton has a few things to say to you.

If you are referring to "Hamilton" using a diverse cast to play characters that were white in reality, I'm not sure that is a good example. The commenter above said "Actors should be a good match for the role they play". I haven't seen "Hamilton", but from what I've read it has little or no mention of slavery. When you don't have slavery in a story set in that era the character's race usually isn't important for the…

... when does the actor's race matter? It would when the story is about racial tension, I suppose: it'll be a century or more before you could have a white actor play Malcolm X. But most of the time, it doesn't matter that you've recast, say, Johnny Rico from Starship Troopers as a white character.

Regardless, the criteria above about actors needing to match their characters in every detail is risibly ahistorical and unmoored from any principle of film or theater; it's pure applesauce, rationalization pretending at erudition.

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> Well, in Tolkien's case it was meant to be proto European mythology. Unsupportable. Tolkien was only concerned with giving England a distinct history. He probably didn't care about Europe and hated everything French. Almost everyone assumes Middle-Earth is Europe. Try holding Tolkien's famous map of Middle-Earth up to a mirror to see that it is really strikingly similar to North America, too similar to be a coincid…

> Unsupportable I'd say it's more of a nitpick. You're right, he was more concerned about an English mythology rather than a European one. But I'm not sure where you're going by bringing up North America...

If it's an English mythology it should be fine to have English actors in it, like Idris Elba, John Boyega, and Roadman Shaq.

Re: IMDB deleted all negative user reviews for The Rings of Power

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When you say European, except for the fact that Tolkien wrote the story, what part of the show thus far has given you an explicit European feel? Did the Harfoots resemble British subjects, or do the race of men have to be from the European continent because of their skin color? Which city did Lindon look like? If we're already in a fantasy setting, why is there such a focus on relating the setting of the fantasy to o…

My bet is that the only reason to have "harfoots" is avoiding to pay for the use of the copyrighted word "hobbits" in the near future. It sounds like a fart. Definitely lacking the talent of Tolkien to find the surgically precise word for each term, but I can understand the legal aspects of the need-for-control part.

If you want to hear some strange sounding names, you can look up the actual Westron names of the hobbits - Frodo Baggins and the other Shire names being an "English translation" from the Red Book of Westmarch. Sam's name is actually "Banazîr Galbasi", so maybe he's Turkish.
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