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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by dagmx »

dilyevsky wrote: post #45
keewee7 wrote: post #23

High-end Samsung phones are the only reason I'm still on Android. Google (Pixel), One Plus, Huawei, and most other Android phone designers/manufacturers have not been able to reach Samsung/Apple quality for the past five or more years.

It’s hilarious that internally googlers always used to poo poo vendors in private conversations but imo you’re absolutely right - samsung essentially holds the whole brand afloat. Although not by choice - they tried replacing android and failed miserably

They sort of succeeded though with replacing Android Wear

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by LegitShady »

Spooky23 wrote: post #47
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So where do we go from here? I have a Samsung Galaxy S9 at the moment, but Samsung's typo-filled changelogs don't exactly inspire confidence. It has also been bugging me to accept the new Samsung Account terms, which I don't want to do. Chinese brands (Huawei, Xiaomi, Motorola, etc.) don't inspire confidence for me either. Apple had the CSAM scanning controversy. I have an iPad, but a bunch of features I didn't want…

Just get an iPhone. They are for better or worse the BlackBerry of the 2020s. Samsung is the only rival in terms of hardware. Google lacks the attention span to execute. Everything else is even less baked. I’d experiment with nerdy Android distros with a tablet. I used to have a Linux smartphone (whose name escapes me, which is driving me nuts) back in like 2006/7, it was fun but not a “daily driver”.

Because I want to use a browser with Adblock and iOS won't let me, so it's ruled out from the start.

Why would I settle for an expensive device that makes browsing the internet painful? Why would I limit myself to only the software apple will approve?

It isn't even in the running and as long as their software policies remain as is, won't be in the running.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by LegitShady »

robin_reala wrote: post #136
anonuser123456 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple scans files on your device to compare against known CSAM content. Google scans your content for potential CSAM based on AI. One can imagine the false positive rate for the Google approach is likely higher.

Apple don’t scan files on your device, they backtracked on the plan (for now at least).

ybeh intended to but the backlash was too strong. not a vote of confidence in them either way.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by dmitrygr »

nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

> It feels like this was released without anyone living with the phone for even a couple weeks and trying normal use cases...

Google used to have a very robust dogfooding in program internally. Back in 2012 - 2015. Everybody inside the android org was using the latest devices before release. This is not nearly the case anymore.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by [deleted] »

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #128
libria wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know the specific law, but FCC does expect a phone to be able to reach 911 (e.g., 911 Act). There must already be a penalizing process or fines in place for manufacturers who fail to meet basic standards. I'm not sure what criminal liability would look like, though. Who do we put in jail? The dev? QA? People who CR'd the bug? The TPM who proposed the feature? The manager who allocated time? The skip who initi…

It's abundantly clear from the replies in this thread that people are thinking emotionally, not rationally. They're pissed off at their phone, and reaching for the biggest stick they can find -- not to fix the problem, but to punish whoever caused it. Likely, they wouldn't even punish the right person, it would just be a scapegoat sacrificed to appease their wrath. Your comment is right on the nose when it comes to t…

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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by dessant »

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #128
libria wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know the specific law, but FCC does expect a phone to be able to reach 911 (e.g., 911 Act). There must already be a penalizing process or fines in place for manufacturers who fail to meet basic standards. I'm not sure what criminal liability would look like, though. Who do we put in jail? The dev? QA? People who CR'd the bug? The TPM who proposed the feature? The manager who allocated time? The skip who initi…

It's abundantly clear from the replies in this thread that people are thinking emotionally, not rationally. They're pissed off at their phone, and reaching for the biggest stick they can find -- not to fix the problem, but to punish whoever caused it. Likely, they wouldn't even punish the right person, it would just be a scapegoat sacrificed to appease their wrath. Your comment is right on the nose when it comes to t…

There is a difference between initial product design (also needs to follow regulations, but not the main topic of discussion), and failure to act on repeated bug reports spanning years that clearly describe software bugs which disrupt emergency calls on Android phones. There is not much to defend in their conduct.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by whatevertrevor »

DrudgeCorporate wrote: post #97
nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

I apparently have been living in my own bubble. Has the pixel 6 been a bad phone in general? I haven't had a single issue with mine and I bought it day one.

Same here, have a pixel 6 pro and the only think I can relate with is the somewhat janky fingerprint sensor. Have not had a single crash, everything works smoothly.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by LegitShady »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #30
nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

I was checking out the Android competition ahead of the iPhone 14 announcement and I was shocked that all of the flagships seem to have major usability complaints. I always thought that the UX might be a little worse, but Android would be ahead on hardware (battery, camera, etc). I thought the whole carriers doing updates and all that would have been fixed by now, but it seems like only Pixel has. What is keeping peo…

The ability to use firefox with ublock origin. Browsing the internet on Apple devices is cancer.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by tetromino_ »

dekerta wrote: post #53
dessant wrote: post #40

The repeated negligence around the handling of Android bugs related to emergency calls should result in criminal prosecution. It's unlikely that actual people weren't hurt because of these bugs. They have known about these issues for years, and they continue to give them the importance of an unresponsive button in Gmail settings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29492884 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comme…

I got a Pixel6 in July. Aside from the camera, it is by far the worst phone I've ever owned. I probably experience at least 4 or 5 major crashes every day where the phone becomes unresponsive for a few seconds. Up until now, I've been able to live with the bugs as a moderate inconvenience, but now that I know I could potentially die because of Google's complete lack of QA, I'm going to ditch the phone right away. I'l…

Counter-anecdote: I got a Pixel 6 pro at launch. With the very notable exception of multi week delays in some security updates, it has been the best phone I have ever owned. Great camera, great screen, great battery life, no stability problems, and most importantly, no overheating after which plagued older Pixels under heavy usage.

But YMMV - based on a perusal of forum posts, it seems that one's experience, among other things, depends on one's geographic region (which may be a proxy for the exact firmware model of your device). Mine is a US model, intended for Google Fi. A disproportionate number of complaints seem to be from users in certain EU countries.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by dagmx »

dessant wrote: post #40

The repeated negligence around the handling of Android bugs related to emergency calls should result in criminal prosecution. It's unlikely that actual people weren't hurt because of these bugs. They have known about these issues for years, and they continue to give them the importance of an unresponsive button in Gmail settings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29492884 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comme…

It certainly has contributed to harm

https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wpirx8/had_an_emer...

The Australian government really needs to get involved and force Google to fix their shit

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