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Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Interesting, this is why I switched from android to apple ~ 5 years ago. I was expecting a very important phone call for the outcome of the surgery of a person very close to me. The smartphone, the Samsung galaxy S7 edge, finally rang, and I was trying to answer the the call, but no, android was doing something more important in the background, the whole UI was frozen and the phone call banner was not responding to t…

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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

I was checking out the Android competition ahead of the iPhone 14 announcement and I was shocked that all of the flagships seem to have major usability complaints. I always thought that the UX might be a little worse, but Android would be ahead on hardware (battery, camera, etc). I thought the whole carriers doing updates and all that would have been fixed by now, but it seems like only Pixel has. What is keeping peo…

I have both an Android (personal primary device) and an iPhone (work phone).

For me by far the number one reason I use my Android device is the Internet browsing differences. Firefox Nightly with all the add-ons I use (first of all uBlock Origin, but so many more) and the sync to desktop Firefox is night and day compared to Safari (with an adblocker).

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

#93

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Nobody is mad about cloud providers scanning for objectionable content. Everyone is mad because Apple is using the hardware you payed for to perform an operation you're paying them to provide. It's like paying for an API that gives you the weather, and all the endpoint returns is a system call for your phone's thermometer. It goes to show that Apple isn't afraid to undermine their own experience to implement adversar…

Not sure what the distinction is. Either Apple uses the hardware you paid for to scan [before uploading] or uses the service you paid for [during upload] to scan. The practical difference is nil. The fact of the matter is, either way, if you don't upload you won't be scanned, if you do upload you will be. End result is the same regardless of whether you use OneDrive, Box, Dropbox or Google Drive (who all implement CS…

The practical difference is that I pay for the electricity they use, now. The wear-and-tear of their service is now imparted onto my phone.

If Apple wants to run that code, they're welcome to do it on their own servers; they pay for the hardware, they decide what software it runs. I shouldn't have to waste my storage space on their NeuralHash model though. I shouldn't waste my CPU cycles on their regulatory compliance. Arguing anything else is paramount to saying that Apple owned your phone from the start, and if that's the case, then antitrust legislation can't come soon enough.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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I don’t understand how could you pay such a vast amount of money for a phone that is not even subpar… it is unusable by your own testimony. Not trying to be snarky or anything, but why didn’t you return it?

All phones have these problems. Every phone has glaring problems you have to live with or work around.

Maybe in the Android world they do (but I kinda doubt it), but certainly not in the Apple ecosystem.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Not sure what the distinction is. Either Apple uses the hardware you paid for to scan [before uploading] or uses the service you paid for [during upload] to scan. The practical difference is nil. The fact of the matter is, either way, if you don't upload you won't be scanned, if you do upload you will be. End result is the same regardless of whether you use OneDrive, Box, Dropbox or Google Drive (who all implement CS…

The practical difference is that I pay for the electricity they use, now. The wear-and-tear of their service is now imparted onto my phone. If Apple wants to run that code, they're welcome to do it on their own servers; they pay for the hardware, they decide what software it runs. I shouldn't have to waste my storage space on their NeuralHash model though. I shouldn't waste my CPU cycles on their regulatory complianc…

seems like a dumb thing to argue about. everything you're saying is moot as you can just plug in your phone to your computer and upload photos without scanning, or use a self-hosted file upload service, etc.

your compute and phone resources are already used for analytics and other things that you didn't explicitly tell the phone to do.

you also greatly overestimate how much CPU it takes to compare a hash, lol

fact of the matter is, you're only scanned when you're using apple services.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

I apparently have been living in my own bubble. Has the pixel 6 been a bad phone in general? I haven't had a single issue with mine and I bought it day one.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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> criminal prosecution Steady now. I don't think you want that.

I don't know the specific law, but FCC does expect a phone to be able to reach 911 (e.g., 911 Act). There must already be a penalizing process or fines in place for manufacturers who fail to meet basic standards. I'm not sure what criminal liability would look like, though. Who do we put in jail? The dev? QA? People who CR'd the bug? The TPM who proposed the feature? The manager who allocated time? The skip who initi…

Why else are Googlers paid so much? (rhetorical)

They need to do their damn job.

As a pixel 6 owner, I'm disgusted.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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No, he meant Apple's CSAM controversy. Apple wanted to scan files on your device, while Google scans stuff you upload to their cloud.

Apple scans files on your device to compare against known CSAM content. Google scans your content for potential CSAM based on AI. One can imagine the false positive rate for the Google approach is likely higher.

Apple scans files on your device, using your resources (storage, compute, power).

Google scans files on their devices, using their resources (storage, compute power).

It is you who decided to upload files to Google's cloud.

However, it is difficult to use your own device if you don't have privacy there.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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I don’t understand how could you pay such a vast amount of money for a phone that is not even subpar… it is unusable by your own testimony. Not trying to be snarky or anything, but why didn’t you return it?

All phones have these problems. Every phone has glaring problems you have to live with or work around.

Don't know what you're talking about. My pixel 6 pro or whatever works great and the pixel 5 I have works fine.

"All phones have these problems" is just false.

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