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Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by endisneigh » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

vetinari wrote: post #42

happyopossum wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple had the CSAM scanning controversy. You mean like Google’s recent CSAM controversy? At least Apple never proposed using ML to find new CSAM and report you to the police with a single violation…

No, he meant Apple's CSAM controversy. Apple wanted to scan files on your device, while Google scans stuff you upload to their cloud.

Apple only wanted to scan files on your device once you decide to upload it. In other words, if you don't ever actually upload anything nothing would ever be scanned.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by whimsicalism » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:50 PM UTC

wiseowise wrote: post #36

nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

Huh. I wonder where are all the Android/Pixel apologists that say that to taste "real" Android you have to use Pixel. (And I say that as an Android developer, before downvotes come my way)

I think they say that about the software, not the hardware.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by dekerta » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:51 PM UTC

dessant wrote: post #40

The repeated negligence around the handling of Android bugs related to emergency calls should result in criminal prosecution. It's unlikely that actual people weren't hurt because of these bugs. They have known about these issues for years, and they continue to give them the importance of an unresponsive button in Gmail settings. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29492884 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comme…

I got a Pixel6 in July. Aside from the camera, it is by far the worst phone I've ever owned. I probably experience at least 4 or 5 major crashes every day where the phone becomes unresponsive for a few seconds.

Up until now, I've been able to live with the bugs as a moderate inconvenience, but now that I know I could potentially die because of Google's complete lack of QA, I'm going to ditch the phone right away. I'll never buy a Google device again. What a waste of money

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by eastbound » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:51 PM UTC

whatever1 wrote: post #5

Interesting, this is why I switched from android to apple ~ 5 years ago. I was expecting a very important phone call for the outcome of the surgery of a person very close to me. The smartphone, the Samsung galaxy S7 edge, finally rang, and I was trying to answer the the call, but no, android was doing something more important in the background, the whole UI was frozen and the phone call banner was not responding to t…

I switched to iPhone when I learnt Android didn’t have encrypted storage at the time.

The whole Android stack is rife for criminal prosecution, between GDPR, permissions, freezing when calling 911…

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by QuarterReptile » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:52 PM UTC

morpheuskafka wrote: post #30

nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

I was checking out the Android competition ahead of the iPhone 14 announcement and I was shocked that all of the flagships seem to have major usability complaints. I always thought that the UX might be a little worse, but Android would be ahead on hardware (battery, camera, etc). I thought the whole carriers doing updates and all that would have been fixed by now, but it seems like only Pixel has. What is keeping peo…

>What is keeping people still on Android if the flagships have so many issues?

Many things boil down to research I'd have to do to convince myself of feature parity for things important to me. Micro SD cards are mostly gone from Android and also not so important to me as they once we're, so that reason is effectively gone. In no particular order:

1. You're stuck with iMessager, which at least means I can't keep Signal as my default messaging app, and probably means other downsides.

2. Old ipods and my iPad don't seem to even allow file transfer with my computer via USB. I don't know if you can transfer files directly to/from external hard drives.

3. Lightning cables (maybe iPhones don't have these anymore?)

4. I suspect that there are missing features if you don't have a MacBook, but I haven't looked into it.

5. I have apps I know and like. For starters, I would have to find a podcast app that I liked. AFAIK you still can't use FF with ublock origin on iPhones, which means I would have to migrate all my browser activity to something else.

6. Keeping my Android phone at least lets me pretend that I'll migrate over to GrapheneOS like I should.

7. I like having access to FDroid. AFAIK, iPhones have no analogue.

8. It seems like the iPhone mini is missing a fingerprint reader, which means only the SE is appealing.

Anyway, I thought pretty hard about it with my last phone because 2 of 4 Apple phones are the best 2 smaller phones, but it would be a lot of inconvenience just to have a smaller phone.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by WesolyKubeczek » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:54 PM UTC

abdusco wrote: post #44

happyopossum wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are TONS of ad-blockers, and a very sophisticated and comprehensive ad blocking API available on iOS. What’s stopping one single ad blocker from running on it?

any recommendation for an adblocker on ios that can block youtube ads?

I’m using Musi (which is designed to stream songs off youtube). Behind the scenes, it likely uses mechanisms akin to popular youtube downloaders, and is finicky where age-restricted videos are concerned.

But with it, I’ve yet to see a single ad and it can play audio from youtube in the background.

It can find and play playlists but has a poor story of following channels. You cannot navigate to a channel with it and binge on videos from it.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by vorpalhex » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:54 PM UTC

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #27

nickpinkston wrote: post #21

I got a Pixel 6 Pro a few months ago, and it's without question the worst phone I've ever had the displeasure to own. - It crashes constantly. - Bluetooth is even buggier than usual. - Fingerprint unlock is very finicky. - The touchscreen isn't designed/calibrated well and leads to constant fat finger presses. - The hotspot is buggy to connect and randomly drops once it does connect. - The phone is so slick (ie low f…

So where do we go from here? I have a Samsung Galaxy S9 at the moment, but Samsung's typo-filled changelogs don't exactly inspire confidence. It has also been bugging me to accept the new Samsung Account terms, which I don't want to do. Chinese brands (Huawei, Xiaomi, Motorola, etc.) don't inspire confidence for me either. Apple had the CSAM scanning controversy. I have an iPad, but a bunch of features I didn't want…

Nokia.

Hardware runs a gen behind but it's fine enough with stock android.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by cageface » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:54 PM UTC

radiorental wrote: post #10

r12343a_19 wrote: post #6

The Pixel 6 is an overhyped disappointment. I replaced my old super-cheap Android One phone with a Pixel 6 and it's full of hardware / software bugs: GPS has problems, I see graphics artefacts (GPU problems?) and Google doesn't care. I'm not surprised at all it has such a problem. I should have bought an iPhone SE.

I've been a happy pixel user for years after getting burned with some cheap Android phones, most notably One Plus. The Pixel 6 is an unmitigated clusterfuck. GPS/Maps locking up is the worst. Either wont load or will lock up during a trip and you will miss a turn. Try rebooting a phone while you're alone on a motorway, then having to type in your route again - super dangerous. I've had the camera (video) lock up mid…

Around the time of the Pixel 3 Android seemed to have all the momentum and Apple seemed to be flailing around trying to find ways to sell even more expensive and gimmicky hardware to their existing users. Since then Android seems to have really stagnated and Apple has fixed most of the shortcomings of their OS and introduced some good models at lower price points. There are still some things I prefer about Android's UX and I strongly dislike how locked down iOS is but most people are probably better off buying an iPhone now.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by Tijdreiziger » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:55 PM UTC

whimsicalism wrote: post #49

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So where do we go from here? I have a Samsung Galaxy S9 at the moment, but Samsung's typo-filled changelogs don't exactly inspire confidence. It has also been bugging me to accept the new Samsung Account terms, which I don't want to do. Chinese brands (Huawei, Xiaomi, Motorola, etc.) don't inspire confidence for me either. Apple had the CSAM scanning controversy. I have an iPad, but a bunch of features I didn't want…

If you want good stock Android phones, I believe Pixel & Chinese brands are only game in town.

I don't really care about 'stock', tbh. It just needs to run the apps I want to run, and it's nice if it can also take decent photos. I would also strongly prefer for it to preserve my privacy, but I realize that's kind of a wash between Google and Apple.

Re: Google Pixel 6 still freezes when calling Emergency Services

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Post by WesolyKubeczek » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 4:55 PM UTC

happyopossum wrote: post #38

howinteresting wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still, in 2022, can't use uBlock Origin on iOS. It is the only major platform which makes it impossible to use uBlock Origin. edit: iOS only has static block lists a la Chrome Manifest v3, not dynamic ones like uBlock Origin uses.

There are TONS of ad-blockers, and a very sophisticated and comprehensive ad blocking API available on iOS. What’s stopping one single ad blocker from running on it?

These tons of ad blockers do a very poor job actually blocking ads in Safari, unfortunately. I run AdGuard and any time I’m out of my PiHole’s range it’s all a crapfest of ads.